Miranda reveals the truth about the American boxing public!

[Run]

So your saying the SMW division isn't good?

I never once claimed that.

-Kessler

Yeah good fighter.

- Jermain Taylor

Not proven at 168, and at this point an enigma who has trouble in getting hit.

- Bute

Yet to be proven. Hasn't fought a quality name opponent.

- Andrade

Durable, crowd pleaser, but hasn't beat a class opponent.

- Froch

Yeah maybe. He's pretty good.

- Miranda

Yeah but he's not a real super middle.

- Pascal

Who in the hell has he fought?

- RJJ i think aswell.

Roy is a light heavy.



Etc etc etc.

What has MW got?

Pavlik, Arthur, Felix, Winky, Mundine? Thats not much at all. Then theres guys like Randy Griffin etc etc etc.

LMFAO.



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[deanrw]

Can you not read? Im saying American based fighters.

My conclusion is simple and it can't be proven wrong. HBO/Showtime are the biggest boxing networks in the world. Please explain to me, why Gamboa, to me a very over rated fighter. Who i do predict will eventually become a world champion, more than once i doubt. But how can he headline cards? And it takes Calzaghe 39 wins? And countless defences to get his own card? Same with Kessler, why isn't Kessler on HBO/Showtime? There are so many flaws in the system. An over rated young fighter headlining a card, over two proven world champions and elite fighters.

Gamboa is not a headliner but he is very hyped. He gets placed on cards with other top prospects to make a card. If Kessler, Calzaghe or even Mundine would have came to the US, they would have gotten exposure plain and simple. Two of the three still have not placed a foot on American soil for a fight. Why? beats me. Well Kessler had one there also I guess, but it was Eons ago against a guy with a 15-12 record.

No network is going to show a big budget card with a fighter that is not known there. Why do you think the Kessler/Calzaghe card did ****ty ratings? because no casual boxing fan there knew who the **** they were. Boxing is a struggling sport in the US and no network is into taking big risks. You want to make it big in the US? Go there and ****ing fight, it's not rocket science.

[deanrw]

Yep.

And it will eventually pay off in the end.

While HBO/Showtime may loose some profits when airing the first couple of fights from these European based elite fighters. Eventually there class will shine through, giving them an even larger fan base, than the non-elite home fighters could generate. Leading to bigger profits in the future. Its all logical, from a business sense, long term, not short term though.

But its worth testing out.

It will mean we watch the highest quality fighters and fights, on the big channels, which is what we all want from the sport in the end.

Good to see you making business decisions for them!LOL

[sparked_85]

It only serves as a warning to **** posters who use words such as 'eurobum' 'euro's'

'euro-style' in posts.

[βetamax]

danc1984, I'm heard them say Miranda was up as well.

[Dynamite Kid]

It was less than 3 months ago, that Kessler was ducking Miranda, because he new he would be viciously knocked out, according to most American boxing fans.

As most non-American boxing fans had stated, Miranda had knocked out no one of note and his punching power wasn't as big as anyone had predicted it to be.

Everyone new Miranda wasn't elite, non US fans that is. Yet the US fans continued to believe the unbelievable.

Abrahams destruction of Miranda should have opened your eyes to the real picture.

And that is, European and other fighters can be more than competitive in boxing.

Also, if Pavlik fights anyone other than Abraham now, he will counted as ducking , unless Abraham gets a fight with ODLH, which won't happen.

So the truth is out. What i new all along is there for all to see. Miranda is not an elite level fighter. And Pavlik better start dealing with his competitors because he could very well loose to Abraham, Sturm etc etc.

These guys are class!

Eurpean fighters are underated all except for Anthony Mundine he is just a bum TBH

[BattlingNelson]

The top ten pound for pound in the world as judged by American publication the Ring are as follows:

1. Manny Pacquiao - the Phillipines
2. Joe Calzaghe - Wales
3. Juan Manuel Marquez - USA
4. Bernard Hopkins - USA
5. Israel Vasquez - USA
6. Miguel Cotto - Puerto Rico
7. Kelly Pavlik - USA
8. Cristian Mijares - Mexico
9. Rafael Marquez - Mexico
10. Ivan Calderon - Puerto Rico

So out of the top ten pound for pound in the world less than half reside in the United States.

Only 2 of these are outside North-america and exactly zero are not regulars on HBO/Showtime.

I think the point is that yanks don't believe there can be very good fighters they haven't seen and the Abraham powerdisplay proved it.

[120]

The top ten pound for pound in the world as judged by American publication the Ring are as follows:

1. Manny Pacquiao - the Phillipines
2. Joe Calzaghe - Wales
3. Juan Manuel Marquez - USAActually Mexico
4. Bernard Hopkins - USA
5. Israel Vasquez - USAalso Mexico
6. Miguel Cotto - Puerto Rico
7. Kelly Pavlik - USA
8. Cristian Mijares - Mexico
9. Rafael Marquez - Mexico
10. Ivan Calderon - Puerto Rico

So out of the top ten pound for pound in the world less than half reside in the United States.

Just though that should have been corrected. Anyways, no country will ever own the P4P list, that's the best thing about boxing, It's all about one man vs another and no one or nothing else.

Cong**** to Abraham he won fair and square. Miranda had a terrible night, from the first power punch that AA landed, his legs were already gone. I guess Pavlik really did bust him up. Is hard to make a comeback after a KO like the one Pavlik gave him.

wish you the very best miranda and I'll c u back in friday night fights

[TommyGunn.]

To the clown who stated 168 is a weak division.

Joe Calzaghe
Mikkel Kessler
Carl Froch
Denis Inkin
Lucian Bute
Jermain Taylor
Jeff Lacy
Alan Green
Edison Miranda
Librado Andrade
Sakio Bika
Andre Dirrell
Andre Ward

Those waters are shark infested my friend. It does not get much deeper than this.

[Dick-Sucker]

Good to see you making business decisions for them!LOL

LOL thought ity made sense though. So i went with it.