Miranda reveals the truth about the American boxing public!

[Sweet Pea 50]

Never called Abraham a bum. But your boy Mundine sure is....

[Dan...]

Yeh you make a good point.

Say Katsidis for example. To understand how he would go in his division. I need to watch Nate Campbell and other fighters in the US. So you are right.

And these guys don't give half a **** about outsiders because they think there watching the best.

Agree.

The fact of the matter is. I pick Calzaghe to beat Pavlik, quite comftorably if they ever fight. I also think Arthur can win aswell against him. I don't see any Americans doing well in the HW division for another decade or so. And while the US does dominate certain divisions its time to realise there are better fighters outside the US.

And its up to those in the US to want to watch them fight, demanding HBO/Showtime, organize contracts to bring these fighters into the US.

Miranda was severely over rated as i had stated numerous times. Kessler should be fighting in front of packed houses at madison square gardens.

The injustices in our sport are amongst the highest i have seen, for professionals.

To be fair, Kessler could be doing a bit more to help himself on that front. No doubt he is top class but he isn't exactly ****ing the door down to fight in the US.

[Trevbutler]

I like how you generalize all American boxing fans. I never liked Miranda, I have always know that his power is the only thing that caries him. Thanks though.

[Dan...]

I like how you generalize all American boxing fans. I never liked Miranda, I have always know that his power is the only thing that caries him. Thanks though.

I find it's best to ignore the anti-American campaign on this site. I'm not even American but it annoys the **** out of me. It really takes away from talking about the fights and the fighters which is what I come here to do.

[deanrw]

I find it's best to ignore the anti-American campaign on this site. I'm not even American but it annoys the **** out of me. It really takes away from talking about the fights and the fighters which is what I come here to do.

Yeah Ult seems to have an American hate going on and has for quite a while. I noticed it myself and I am not American. He runs in here and screams about the American bias, while he is one of the most biased people here.

If he only realized how many Non American fighters have captured the hearts of the American Public and networks alike, he would realize how much of a fool he is making of himself.

[Dan...]

Yeah Ult seems to have an American hate going on and has for quite a while. I noticed it myself and I am not American. He runs in here and screams about the American bias, while he is one of the most biased people here.

If he only realized how many Non American fighters have captured the hearts of the American Public and networks alike, he would realize how much of a fool he is making of himself.

Unfortunately I think his lunacy has gone beyond the point of realisation.

[rizkybizness]

Heavy handed Sven Ottke reveals the truth about Mundine.

[shadeyfizzle]

The top ten pound for pound in the world as judged by American publication the Ring are as follows:

1. Manny Pacquiao - the Phillipines
2. Joe Calzaghe - Wales
3. Juan Manuel Marquez - USA
4. Bernard Hopkins - USA
5. Israel Vasquez - USA
6. Miguel Cotto - Puerto Rico
7. Kelly Pavlik - USA
8. Cristian Mijares - Mexico
9. Rafael Marquez - Mexico
10. Ivan Calderon - Puerto Rico

So out of the top ten pound for pound in the world less than half reside in the United States.

How the hell is Juan manuel Marquez from USA but Rafael from Mexico?

[Run]

It was less than 3 months ago, that Kessler was ducking Miranda, because he new he would be viciously knocked out, according to most American boxing fans.

As most non-American boxing fans had stated, Miranda had knocked out no one of note and his punching power wasn't as big as anyone had predicted it to be.

Everyone new Miranda wasn't elite, non US fans that is. Yet the US fans continued to believe the unbelievable.

Abrahams destruction of Miranda should have opened your eyes to the real picture.

And that is, European and other fighters can be more than competitive in boxing.

Also, if Pavlik fights anyone other than Abraham now, he will counted as ducking , unless Abraham gets a fight with ODLH, which won't happen.

So the truth is out. What i new all along is there for all to see. Miranda is not an elite level fighter. And Pavlik better start dealing with his competitors because he could very well loose to Abraham, Sturm etc etc.

These guys are class!

Miranda is a Columbian.



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[Dick-Sucker]

Yeah I realise that. I am 99% sure that the judges all had Miranda up 2-1 after 3. I had it the same way. Arthur pretty much gave away 2 of the dirst 3 rounds till he started opening up.

What a piss weak argument.

I can't belive people are saying Miranda was ahead on the cards.

He got KTFO in the 4th round.

LMAO at this argument.