Who won DLH-Whitaker?

[Scott9945]

I've always hated DLH and always appreciated Whitaker. But watching that fight live, IMO Whitaker didn't do enough to win the decision. On another note I'd watch Hamed-Kelley again over it anyday.

[tredh]

This fight was another clear case of De la Hoya getting a bunch of credit for punches he didn't land. I have never seen a fighter get so much credit from judges, crowds and ring announcers for missing punches. De la Hoya's flurries look good but 95% of those punches don't land. A fighter can't get credit for punches that don't land just because the **** looked kind of good.

Whitaker won that fight no doubt about it to me.

[Dynamite Kid]

I just watched this ***** last night, and was actually quite entertained... at least it entertained me more than Hamed-Kelley. I like these kind of high-paced chessmatches.

Anyway, this fight really was hell to score, which is okay for me, because I don't score.

BUT, I do want to know what the general mood on this fight was. Volume vs. power. You decide!

i thought it was a draw neither did enough to win the fight IMO ,Oscar started off well but he faded in the second half of the fight and Whiaker came on a bit ,but on the whole Oscar did not do enough to win and Whitaker did not do enough to beat Oscar

very hard fight to score the point dedcution and the knockdown did not help to score this fight

[Dynamite Kid]

This fight was another clear case of De la Hoya getting a bunch of credit for punches he didn't land. I have never seen a fighter get so much credit from judges, crowds and ring announcers for missing punches. De la Hoya's flurries look good but 95% of those punches don't land. A fighter can't get credit for punches that don't land just because the **** looked kind of good.

Whitaker won that fight no doubt about it to me.

a lot of those punches did 'nt land its true however if only one man is active in that round then u can only give him the round to him ,Whitaker was slipping a lot of punches but he was not doing much else in terms of punching where as Oscar was taking the fight to him for the first 5 rounds

i can understand u picking Whitaker but it was not a clear decision not by any stretch , i thought it was a drawthey were both disapointing IMO

[tredh]

a lot of those punches did 'nt land its true however if only one man is active in that round then u can only give him the round to him ,Whitaker was slipping a lot of punches but he was not doing much else in terms of punching where as Oscar was taking the fight to him for the first 5 rounds

i can understand u picking Whitaker but it was not a clear decision not by any stretch , i thought it was a drawthey were both disapointing IMO

I don't agree with bold. That is because defense is a scoring criteria. Just being aggresive is not a scoring criteria, EFFECTIVE aggression is a scoring criteria. So a fighter should not get a round just because they are aggressive if it is not being effective.

My picking Whitaker with a clear decision doesn't mean it wasn't a tough fight it just means to me that there was a clear winner and to me that was Whitaker.

[Dynamite Kid]

I don't agree with bold. That is because defense is a scoring criteria. Just being aggresive is not a scoring criteria, EFFECTIVE aggression is a scoring criteria. So a fighter should not get a round just because they are aggressive if it is not being effective.

My picking Whitaker with a clear decision doesn't mean it wasn't a tough fight it just means to me that there was a clear winner and to me that was Whitaker.

I agree but how can u score a round when a guy does'nt do any punching

its a Boxing match after all

i know how to score Ring Generalship thats why i had Griffin beating Toney 1st time around but for me Whitaker was not the ring general early on in this fight

[Johnny Rebel]

De La Hoya easily won this fight. Pea gets credit because he did better than people thought he would do, but he still didn't do nearly enough to win.

[T-97]

De La Hoya easily won this fight. Pea gets credit because he did better than people thought he would do, but he still didn't do nearly enough to win.

I wouldn't say that. I scored it to Oscar. But only by 1 point, the knock down made it especially close. But Sweet Pea did well considering he was past his prime and Oscar was in his prime.

[tredh]

I agree but how can u score a round when a guy does'nt do any punching
its a Boxing match after all

i know how to score Ring Generalship thats why i had Griffin beating Toney 1st time around but for me Whitaker was not the ring general early on in this fight

As for the bold thats a very tough call and I guess its up to the judge to decide who to score those kinds of rounds for.
I can respect that you feel Whitaker was not the ring general early in the fight.

[-Hyperion-]

de la hoya clearly.....and i love me some whitaker too....but i think oscar clearly won...