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  • shadeyfizzle
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    #21
    Originally posted by P4PKING_2008
    In a street fight taking someone down to the ground is seen as a ***** move and shows your not man enough to stand up and trade with each other. Who outs a headlock on in a streetfight? You hit them as hard and as much as ya can not just grab their plegs and **** their asses.

    **** YOU JOE 'ROID' ROGAN
    How many streetfights have you seen where people get called ******* 4 taking the other down??

    If you and I fought and I knocked you out on the ground or broke your arm would i get less respect than if I knocked you out while standing up??

    A fight doesnt end if you knock me down with a big punch and you're not gonna stand there and count to 10 while waiting 4 me to get back up

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    • cuzfozzy
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      #22
      thats why boxers get paid ... and streetfighters don't - lol

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      • shadeyfizzle
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        #23
        Originally posted by cuzfozzy
        thats why boxers get paid ... and streetfighters don't - lol
        In japan there are mma guys and sumo wrestlers that get paid more than a good majority of US professional athletes including boxers

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          #24
          Originally posted by RichLoc
          Ufc isn't a sport therefore Boxing wins.
          I don't think the sport of Boxing is on it's way out. Especially when it's becoming more global.

          I do think they need to really....renovate the way they sell boxers as well as how they organize events. For some reason, promotion hasn't learned to adapt and evolve with today's media.

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            #25
            Originally posted by cuzfozzy
            mma is for sissys.

            rogan is an idiot. mma is real fighting ??? ... you can elbow
            you can ... if it was a real fight people would use a gun
            or a knife - lol ... boxing is a sport, you use only your hands
            and thats what makes it an art, it doesn't make it limited
            it makes it a skill .... they should end this once and for all
            have an mma vs boxing night ... the best vs the best

            boxers can only box, mma fighters can fight the way they normally
            fight ... a good example is an old larry holmes out boxing butter bean
            a skilled boxer is 10 X better than any mma fighter. as tyson
            said 'how dare they challenge me with their primitive skills' lol
            There have been boxers and kickboxers of the highest level fight in MMA, and their striking skills far exceed those of nearly everyone in MMA, and what has nearly always happened is that they get taken down and submitted or knocked out on the ground.

            I've read people say on here boxers will just "step away" from takedowns. It's never that simple. Some fighters spend their whole careers working takedown defence and wrestling, and they still get taken down. Wrestling is a science as deep as any martial art, and it's not one that's easy to pick up.

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              #26
              Originally posted by sunthunder
              There have been boxers and kickboxers of the highest level fight in MMA, and their striking skills far exceed those of nearly everyone in MMA, and what has nearly always happened is that they get taken down and submitted or knocked out on the ground.

              I've read people say on here boxers will just "step away" from takedowns. It's never that simple. Some fighters spend their whole careers working takedown defence and wrestling, and they still get taken down. Wrestling is a science as deep as any martial art, and it's not one that's easy to pick up.
              Its much harder to sprawl than shoot because momentum and leverage are not on your side. Edson Berto, Tim Sylvia, Joey Villasenor and Fireball Gomi are all prime examples of excellent amateur boxers/kickboxers that ended up stranded in the water once they got taken down

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                #27
                Originally posted by squealpiggy
                When was the last streetfight you saw end in a submission? Precisely. As soon as you introduce rules you make it artificial. UFC is no more a real fight than semi-contact karate, the only difference is in the rules.
                i definately agree, **** joe rogan. what an idiot. UFC = Drunk Hillbillies and guys dry humping.

                Those UFC guys are NOWHERE near the conditioning of a true boxer. All fights usually are stand up fights and I would put Floyd up against any jackass UFC guy within 10-15 lbs of him and I think he would KO the redneck ****

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by shadeyfizzle
                  Its much harder to sprawl than shoot because momentum and leverage are not on your side. Edson Berto, Tim Sylvia, Joey Villasenor and Fireball Gomi are all prime examples of excellent amateur boxers/kickboxers that ended up stranded in the water once they got taken down
                  Exactly, excellent point. At some point, every fighter ends up on their back. Gomi in particular, has an excellent amateur wrestling pedigree aswell, but Aurelio only needed to score one takedown to put him on his back and choke him out.

                  Sometimes, you don't even need to score a clean takedown. Some fighters have such a dangerous guard game that they only need pull guard, such as what Nogueira did to Sylvia. Nogueira couldn't score the takedown, so he pulled half-guard and swept him, putting Sylvia on his back, then submitted him.

                  Even imo the best and most successful striker-turned MMA fighter, Mirko Crocop, has suffered defeats, because as good as his remarkable takedown defence was, you will end up on your back at some point. The fear of a takedown also can compromise even a great boxer/kickboxers striking ability, it can make them more apprehensive, and they can then even be outstruck by a technically inferior striker because of this.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MaTTuP
                    i definately agree, **** joe rogan. what an idiot. UFC = Drunk Hillbillies and guys dry humping.

                    Those UFC guys are NOWHERE near the conditioning of a true boxer. All fights usually are stand up fights and I would put Floyd up against any jackass UFC guy within 10-15 lbs of him and I think he would KO the redneck ****

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                    Elite MMA guys are just as if not more conditioned than any elite boxer. I have been in both a ring and a cage and get more tired in 1 rd in a cage than 3 rds in a ring. I'll take any number of ufc guys over floyd. He'd get his chicken legs broke from a solid roundhouse trying to juke and jive.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MaTTuP
                      i definately agree, **** joe rogan. what an idiot. UFC = Drunk Hillbillies and guys dry humping.

                      Those UFC guys are NOWHERE near the conditioning of a true boxer. All fights usually are stand up fights and I would put Floyd up against any jackass UFC guy within 10-15 lbs of him and I think he would KO the redneck ****

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                      Take any boxing match. How many matches actually end from a KO or TKO from just 1 KD?? now take away the 10count. If you knock someone down do you let them kneel it out until they recover or rush in to finish them?? this level of strategy is what makes mma just as much a science as boxing

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