If Manny Pacquaio wins a 4th belt, will he be ranked higher than Morales or Barrera?

[Left Hook Tua]

Hamed does have more quality wins than Marquez........and i believe he unified, but it wasnt counted cause of politics.

people don't remember that. the wbc , ibf , wba didn't want the wbo to be recognized and dropped any champion who fought for a wbo belt.

they just discount hamed as an overhyped brit because of how marco dismantled him. hamed wasn't prime anymore when he fought marco though. check out his fight right after and right before he fought marco. naseem , whether it was his lifestyle , burnt out relatively early. the best comparison i use is mike tyson.

[Papa Ace]

Also keep this in mind...Pacman had no formal training! he basically taught himself to fight till he came to roach...he had some basic coaches but he taught himself how to fight at a young age!

that is impressive especially when guys like floyd jr, morales, and barrera had top caliber Trainers at a super young age...and JMM was basically trained since he was a boy as well by the great nacho beristain!

so its impressive how this guy pacman was able to beat those guys who were classically trained and honed with the textbook and proper fighting style since a young age!

amazing.

Pacquiao at his young age was preparing dough "manually" that will feed like 200 people in the morning. Thats where he got all those muscles and strength at such an early age.

[Fox McCloud]

Actually, Hamed did beat several top guys.......while Marquez was trying to get his career going after the Norwood debacle.

Yes, but which guy would get embarrassed every time in that round robin?

I'll give you a hint... it's not Marquez.

[Left Hook Tua]

Yes, but which guy would get embarrassed every time in that round robin?

I'll give you a hint... it's not Marquez.

i think hamed ko's pac.

here's how the round robin goes if all 5 were in their prime.

manny ko/tko marco
erik ud manny
manny ud hamed or hamed ko manny
manny sd/ud juan or juan sd/ud manny
marco ud/sd erik or erik sd/ud marco
marco ud hamed
marco ud juan
erik ud hamed
erik ko/tko juan
juan ud naseem

[ROSS CALIFORNIA]

If Manny Pacquaio wins a 4th belt, will he be ranked higher than Morales or Barrera?

Regardless, he already knocked them both out. That will always come up when comparing them in the future. Not looking at careers or statistics but as a fighter, he was a step above them anyway.

[Left Hook Tua]

If Manny Pacquaio wins a 4th belt, will he be ranked higher than Morales or Barrera?

Regardless, he already knocked them both out. That will always come up when comparing them in the future. Not looking at careers or statistics but as a fighter, he was a step above them anyway.

they weren't prime when manny met them though...... still great wins but things could've gone different if marco and erik was prime. probably not so much marco but seeing the 1st erik-manny fight imagine if erik was 3-4 yrs. younger? not good news for manny.

go haye!

WAR HAYE!!!!!!

[MaYaN_SuN]

If it happens , he could and his fans could make that case. He started at flyweight, and now, is fighting at 135. If he wins , that would be very impressive. Along the way, he's beaten the mexican trio of, Marquez,Morales and Barrera. Out of those 3, I'd say Barrera and Morales faced and beat better comp.


But..........Manny is closing in real fast, and with a win could surpass those guys accomplishments.



Yay or Nay................

lol Please..

Other then Marquez (who pac can't even officially get by), where is his Norwood or Junior Jones? Where is his equally talented opponents?

Pac litterally made his name off 2 names. Barrera and Morales. Both not even a hint of what they use to be. lol Not even a glimpse of what they were. And if you think they were still prime, I suggest you take a look at who Barrera and Morales were back in the day.

When Humberto Soto was fightin Guzman, that was to get a shot at Paq. And neither fight happen and those 2 guys are/were the beasts of the division. Those would have been major fights. Those would have been real tests and with Pac unable to get by a clever hard hittin Marquez, lol there's simply no way he get's by Guzman, he's way too sloppy. And a Soto fight would just be straight bonkers, talkin fireworks and the whole deal. And they didnt fight, lol is that a coincidence?

Now he's movin up to lightweight, that is a big deal..lol But he can only get away with it, cause again, there's no one at lightweight at the moment. Someone needs to get Casamayor out of there, so his old ass who's been gettin knocked down and around doesn't end up as another elderly statistic to ANYONE let alone Pac lol.




And you wanna talk about resumes? Where would Pac be without Barrera or Morales on his resume? Without those 2 names, where would he be? More importantly who would he have to fight? And given Pac's renowned all around sloppyness, how would he perform against fresh young blood that can fight with both hands like a Soto or Guzman?

lol Pac is bein surgically placed within the Featherweights simply because he gained some fame off of Barrera but struggled against the other older vets.

Now if he struggles against Diaz, lol the same **** will happen. He'll either go down in weight or they'll call out another weak name. lol And you wanna talk about resumes? There's only 3 names on Paq's list. 2 of which he got his official fame from. Those same 2 names, Humberto Soto (the lesser of "Soto and Guzman) could have done the same thing to those names. And you wanna talk about resumes?

Anyways, Paq is gettin the same treatment that Nasim Hamed had. Steward admitted to keeping Hamed away from a prime Marquez and all the other guys that were mixing it up down there and Roach is doin the same with his child....lol And you wanna talk about resumes? You may be a ****in ******, but you got some nerve, I'll give you that lol

[Bogler]

morales and mab coming out of retirement will toy w/ soto.

[MaYaN_SuN]

morales and mab coming out of retirement will toy w/ soto.

I'd agree...If my parents huffed model glue when they made me and if I ate paint chips off the side of a barn my whole life.


Truth is, as hard as Soto hits with those short quick shots, and those whipping short hooks, he could have done the same thing to Barrera and Morales at that point in their careers.

lol Unlike Paq, there is no sloppy south paw style to be takin advatange of.

[Live Dog]

Pac is already ahead of them both.