Lets get things straight here... Calzaghe is stronger than Pavlik

[Chase8400]

Good post but I have to disagree with you about a few things. In the first fight Taylor was trying to use head movement to no avail. In the second fight he held up a high guard and Kelly did not land a serious punch for most of the fight until he went to the body in the 11th. In that fight Kelly was just punching Taylors arms. Taylor didnt punch often at all but it was still a close fight because Pavlik didnt land any punches either.

Pavlik's chin is decent. He takes straight shots, which he sees coming and rolls with, very well (like the Miranda fight) but he can be hurt by punches that he doesnt see coming. Because Calzagne is a master of throwing punches in weird angles, and is the bigger guy, I think he will stop Kelly.

You probably need to rewatch the fight my boy. Compu-box will help you out with that little tidbit if you are still dillusional after watching it. Ooop, that just happened.

[Stickman]

Back to the dillusions.
First of all: Calzaghe CANNOT, no matter what he does- stop Kelly Pavlik. (give up on it)
Secondly: What would make you ever asomb that Kelly would quit on his stool. Joe has made no fighters that i know of, quit on their stool. Much less the undisputed , undefeated middleweight champ.

If Pavlik has not proven to you that he has one hell of alot of heart , then i guess he will never prove that. We will just have to see where the chips fall if the fight comes off. I don't think the fight will be made, but you never know. Roy Jones will probably be fighting Joe, and if Joe is true to his word will be retiring afterwards. If I were Joe, I would take the Pavlik fight over Jones. Even at this age, Jones is still faster and a way sharper puncher. At least he has a speed advantage over Pavlik. With Jones, the only advantages he will have are movement and workrate. Jones owns all other catagories excluding the chins. But, that will not come into play in that fight either.

Chase, don't ever start thinking that one fighter simply CANNOT stop another. About that time, it happens.

Don't **** yourself, Calzaghe has the power to do the job. Whether he uses it or not would be an entirely different story, but he does have it. Nobody's saying Pavlik doesn't have dumptruck loads of heart and will, or at least nobody with any brains. He's a great kid, humble, decent, and with all that heart. But if he gets caught early in a round in the right way, gets stunned, and can't get his head back together enough to stay on his feet, he can damned sure be KO'd, or TKO'd. Honestly, he'd be better off against a bigger puncher than Calzaghe, one that will actually knock him down, rather than get him out on his feet and get a ref stoppage because he can't defend himself.

[Sweet Pea 50]

So because he posts facts he must be an alt?

Calzaghe can punch considerably harder than Taylor, although 3x harder is a little exagerated.

What facts were posted?
That IF Zags sat down on his shots, he'd hit harder then Taylor?
Whatever.
Zags ain't a power puncher. Go ahead dig up ten year old ****.
As of NOW, Taylor carries a bigger punch then Zags.
Joe Calzaghe, the power puncher....

[Konstantin]

You probably need to rewatch the fight my boy. Compu-box will help you out with that little tidbit if you are still dillusional after watching it. Ooop, that just happened.

Heres the post fight boxingscene compubox analysis.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=12682

The second fight his power punches were landed 14% lower than in his first, from 48% to 34%.

Id like to see a Pavlik fight were he had a lower % landed power punches.

Which one of us is delusional now?

[xxjace]

I'm not a fan of pavlik or calzaghe. But I think Pavlik would pull this one off. I don't think it would be that hard of a match for Pavlik to win.Not to diss on Joe just don't think he has the tools to beat Pavlik.

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

What facts were posted?
That IF Zags sat down on his shots, he'd hit harder then Taylor?
Whatever.
Zags ain't a power puncher. Go ahead dig up ten year old ****.
As of NOW, Taylor carries a bigger punch then Zags.
Joe Calzaghe, the power puncher....

I didn't say he was a power puncher, I said he hits harder than Taylor.

Taylor is not a power puncher, so it doesn't make Joe one just because he punches harder.

Taylor has never KO'd anyone in a world title fight, Calzaghe has not only KO'd people in most of his title fiights, he was fighting at a higher standard than the Jr. middleweights Taylor was failing to put away.

Actually think about it logically, you know I'm right.

[Sweet Pea 50]

I didn't say he was a power puncher, I said he hits harder than Taylor.

Taylor is not a power puncher, so it doesn't make Joe one just because he punches harder.

Taylor has never KO'd anyone in a world title fight, Calzaghe has not only KO'd people in most of his title fiights, he was fighting at a higher standard than the Jr. middleweights Taylor was failing to put away.

Actually think about it logically, you know I'm right.

I thought about it for, oh, ten seconds.
Zags doesn't hit harder then Taylor. Sorry.

[El Dominicano]

I thought about it for, oh, ten seconds.
Zags doesn't hit harder then Taylor. Sorry.

Stronger then Pavlik? Doesn't Zab pack a bigger punch then Joe? Oh wait Joe doesn't punch, So why is he even allowed to box?

[Mizzou]

What facts were posted?
That IF Zags sat down on his shots, he'd hit harder then Taylor?
Whatever.
Zags ain't a power puncher. Go ahead dig up ten year old ****.
As of NOW, Taylor carries a bigger punch then Zags.
Joe Calzaghe, the power puncher....

cosign. I don't know how anyone thinks Joe's slaps/angles will be anything more than a slight annoyance to Pavlik. Joe didn't put one damn mark on Hopkins face. The Zag nutriders on this forum take **** to another level.

[.Mik.]

I really don't think Joe has a chin.

Hahahaha. What?