Manny Pacquiao or Joe Calzaghe: Who is The P4P Best?

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  • MANGLER
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    #71
    Pac gets the nod.

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    • Domain
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      #72
      Originally posted by Ryno113
      O please i like you as a poster but that is just Bull****. Pavlik has beaten Taylor and Miranda, Miranda is a one dimentional guy with alot of power, Taylor got beat by Spinks and Wright and lost to Hopkins. NOW you may not have liked the way Joe beat Hopkins but he did beat him.

      The knockdown was the opening round he wasn't in his rhythm, Pavlik got dropped in the 2nd and was wobbling all over the place yet no-one mentions that.

      If Pac-man fought Guzman now i bet you he would get recognition. Guzman is coming up and so is Pac-man alot of people here think Guzman would beat him anyway. i don't.

      Calzaghe would embarress Pavlik, Pavlik is kessler but with more power. He's and expert at the basics. Jab, Jab, Right hand. That's it. Calzaghe can adjust. He would dominate like he did against Kessler. IF the fight ever materialises I want to be all my point on Calzaghe against you.
      If the fight comes off Ill bet you most of my points! because if you bet all the points you wont be able to post on the board so you need to leave a bit of money in the bank...i went in debt on here and couldnt post at all lol untile someone donated money to my account.

      anyway thats the funny thing you guys are always looking for someone to BEAT pacman....but it seems you are not looking for someone to Beat Calzaghe...see it show you are not a pacquiao fan or even respect him.

      I notice that...who is your favorite fighter? do you say oh he better fight this guy that guy...what I notice is this when pacman beats a guy people wanted to win against him they still never give him credit and make exuses or say he needs to fight valero, juan diaz, and then if he beats those oh he needs to fight casa or campbell..then pacquiao beats those thent hey say they are old men.

      why cannot he get credit?

      its funny the way these pac haters are they want pacman to beat ever great fighter in each division he goes...and if he does that he will be top 5 ATG...but yet they wouldnt even have him that high lol maybe they HATE ASIANS!?

      who knows...

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      • oA2o
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        #73
        i love both of these fighters and i enjoy watching joe fight more than manny, but i feel that manny deserves the number 1 spot. He has fought in America against the best that Mexico has to offer. He embarrassed Barrerra in both fights and almost put Marco out cold in the 2nd fight. I really enjoyed his 2nd fight with Marquez. Marquez could have won and knows that it is his fault that he lost, he was winning round 3 and deciding to get careless and got put on his ass. The knockdown is what ultimately decided the decision for Marquez. Joe is one of a kind and I consider him the greatest British fighter of all time. He beat Hopkins at B-Slops own game of grab and hit. It was ugly but most of B-Hop's fights are ugly. I picked him to beat Lacy and Kessler, two guys who are rendered useless once you take them off of their straight line. My only problem with Joe is that he could have been fighting in America and beating quality opposition where Pac made the trip in order to make the name. I think Joe would school Pavlik, the only guy that I can see beating Joe is Roy and I am pretty sure that they won't fight each other. Pac #1 by a slim margin!!!

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        • fightnews55
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          #74
          Certainly not Calzaghe. He's just a slapping fraud to me. Can't stand the guys style. He's lucky he got by grandpa Hopkins.

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          • Ryn0
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            #75
            Originally posted by Domain
            If the fight comes off Ill bet you most of my points! because if you bet all the points you wont be able to post on the board so you need to leave a bit of money in the bank...i went in debt on here and couldnt post at all lol untile someone donated money to my account.

            anyway thats the funny thing you guys are always looking for someone to BEAT pacman....but it seems you are not looking for someone to Beat Calzaghe...see it show you are not a pacquiao fan or even respect him.

            I notice that...who is your favorite fighter? do you say oh he better fight this guy that guy...what I notice is this when pacman beats a guy people wanted to win against him they still never give him credit and make exuses or say he needs to fight valero, juan diaz, and then if he beats those oh he needs to fight casa or campbell..then pacquiao beats those thent hey say they are old men.

            why cannot he get credit?

            its funny the way these pac haters are they want pacman to beat ever great fighter in each division he goes...and if he does that he will be top 5 ATG...but yet they wouldnt even have him that high lol maybe they HATE ASIANS!?

            who knows...
            Ermmmm... i'm asian.... Indonesian to be specific, My favourite fighter is Chris John so that make your point about me moot. Quote where i say I'm looking for someone to beat pac. i stated that i think Guz man would lose not win.

            Calzaghe is a great fighter and deserves respect, so does Pac-man I though Pac-man beat Marquez as well unlike alot of people on this board. Pac-man needs to fight Casa or Campbell to establish himself in the lightweight division the only reason i don't but Pac-man number 1 instantly was because his last fight was EXTREMELY close.

            Even though my favourite fight is Chris John and I think he can beat Mijares, I don't think he is God, although even if I think he'll lose I have to support him and IMO he beat Marquez in a close, boring fight. (just pointing that out)

            The same way you seem to be a pac-man fan you have to support him, for the record I like Pacquaio more than calzaghe but i'm trying to be unbiased towards it. Giving both fighters an equal chance to grab the number 1.

            So before you make half-arsed pre judgemental posts about me stop, because you don't know two things about me. Asian and proud man.
            Last edited by Ryn0; 06-07-2008, 01:54 PM.

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            • jdubb863
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              #76
              Joe cal!!....

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              • Left Hook Tua
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                #77
                Originally posted by NachoMan
                Dumbest post in the whole thread.
                how is it dumb? i was comparing joe's best wins with manny's. obviously not head to head fighting but legacy wise. the guy i was replying to is a big time barrera fan. that's why i put barrera in the mix. if you hold in higher regard hopkins and eubanks than you do barrera and morales. then you can honestly hold a win over past prime eubanks and hopkins over barrera and morales. and vice versa.

                i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't know what and who i was replying to. richloc is a kid that loves barrera and everything is about barrera to him and he hates manny for beating marco.

                my view. you can't discount manny's wins over past prime , older fighters when joe's most notable win is against hopkins who is also past prime and much older. if you discount one you have to discount the other.
                Last edited by Left Hook Tua; 06-07-2008, 06:57 PM.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                  how is it dumb? i was comparing joe's best wins with manny's. obviously not head to head fighting but legacy wise. the guy i was replying to is a big time barrera fan. that's why i put barrera in the mix. if you hold in higher regard hopkins and eubanks than you do barrera and morales. then you can honestly hold a win over past prime eubanks and hopkins over barrera and morales. and vice versa.

                  i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't know what and who i was replying to. richloc is a kid that loves barrera and everything is about barrera to him and he hates manny for beating marco.

                  my view. you can't discount manny's wins over past prime , older fighters when joe's most notable win is against hopkins who is also past prime and much older. if you discount one you have to discount the other.
                  Pac never beat the real Barrera.

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                  • abadger
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Domain
                    If the fight comes off Ill bet you most of my points!
                    its funny the way these pac haters are they want pacman to beat ever great fighter in each division he goes...and if he does that he will be top 5 ATG...but yet they wouldnt even have him that high lol maybe they HATE ASIANS!?

                    who knows...
                    I'm a Calzaghe fan, and I love Asians.

                    Asian Girls.

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                    • S.W.F.C
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                      #80
                      Calzaghe of course.

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