All the ATG's had a career defining fight. Which was Floyd's?

[Jim_Davis]

Mayweather had Cotto...



...Oh no he never he ducked him and retired.


PS I love you Floyd I cant believe you're doing this to meeeee

[AceNguyen]

Ali was considered a heavy underdog against Frazier. Ali wasnt the Ali he is now at that time. Saying that Cotto wouldn't be a defining win for Floyd is just speculation just like me saying that he would have is.

the fact is, we will never know if Cotto would have been his signature fight because Floyd didnt and will not fight him.

Cotto wouldn't be favored against Mayweather either. Corrales was probably Mayweather's only fight where he was the underdog and he dominated him so badly that people would rather make excuses for Corrales than acknowledge Floyd's greatness. Like I said, a dozen pounds lighter against the undefeated #5 P4P fighter in the world and he won every round while knocking the other guy down 5 times.

Do you have to lose or be badly hurt to be in a career defining match?

[ferocity]

Ali had frazier(Great fighter).... unfortunately for Mayweather nobody come close to him or Frazier in his own era for that matter.............Leonard had Duran(another great fighter)...........But who does Mayweather have to dance with on the level of duran or frazier in the opposite corner? NO-ONE not Cotto or corrales..

Thats total bull****! There were many top contender around that floyd could have fought.

I may dislike floyd but i also recongize when he's done good in boxing. And one of them is not going after some of the other top fighters at 130 and 135 and 140 what did he do there?

At 130 there was Casamayor and Freitas, Mayweather didn't fight any of them.

At 135 there was Stevie Johnson, Shane Mosley, Ivan Robinson, Cesar Bazon, Paul Spadafora, Juan Lazcano, and he didn't fight any of them.

Sure some of them fight were tough to make as some were tried to make but they didn't offer a real offer and even Hbo didnt' want a Joel Casamayor fight cause everybody though i'd be borring but you know what, CASAMAYOR is still considered the elite guy at lightweight. Ain't that some ****!

At 147 lol, do i even have to make a roll call of the fighters that were around for floyd to fight? FLOYD HAD COMPETITION, HE JUST DIDN'T GO AFTER IT.

[Ray*]

Ali was considered a heavy underdog against Frazier. Ali wasnt the Ali he is now at that time. Saying that Cotto wouldn't be a defining win for Floyd is just speculation just like me saying that he would have is.

the fact is, we will never know if Cotto would have been his signature fight because Floyd didnt and will not fight him.

What?? In which fight the 1st 2nd or 3rd? Cotto is just not in the league has mayweather yet, Ali and frazier were in the same league, Leonard/duran were in the same league but i really cant say the same about Cotto in term of pbf at the moment.

[ferocity]

And though i'am a fan of Frazier, without Ali's exile, there would be no Joe Fraizer. Ali was that good.

Its boxing and its promoters, managers, tv that build that star fighter of course somes times the audience recognizes a great when they see it and demand to see that fighter again.

[Ray*]

Thats total bull****! There were many top contender around that floyd could have fought.

I may dislike floyd but i also recongize when he's done good in boxing. And one of them is not going after some of the other top fighters at 130 and 135 and 140 what did he do there?

At 130 there was Casamayor and Freitas, Mayweather didn't fight any of them.

At 135 there was Stevie Johnson, Shane Mosley, Ivan Robinson, Cesar Bazon, Paul Spadafora, Juan Lazcano, and he didn't fight any of them.

Sure some of them fight were tough to make as some were tried to make but they didn't offer a real offer and even Hbo didnt' want a Joel Casamayor fight cause everybody though i'd be borring but you know what, CASAMAYOR is still considered the elite guy at lightweight. Ain't that some ****!

At 147 lol, do i even have to make a roll call of the fighters that were around for floyd to fight? FLOYD HAD COMPETITION, HE JUST DIDN'T GO AFTER IT.

Thats not what we are discussing here. Tell me out of the list that you just pull out who stands shoulder to shoulder with say duran.

[2501]

Cotto wouldn't be favored against Mayweather either. Corrales was probably Mayweather's only fight where he was the underdog and he dominated him so badly that people would rather make excuses for Corrales than acknowledge Floyd's greatness. Like I said, a dozen pounds lighter against the undefeated #5 P4P fighter in the world and he won every round while knocking the other guy down 5 times.

Do you have to lose or be badly hurt to be in a career defining match?

my point is, Ali wasnt at the stage where he was already considered "GREAT" when he fought Frazier, yet was able to get a career defining win.

Even better, if Frazier were to have beaten Ali, that would had been HIS career defining win. Saying that Cotto would not had been Floyd's defining win is ridiculous because you just don't know. Floyd didnt fight him. For all we know, this fight could had been a toe to toe battle because as boxing has shown us, **** doesnt always play out the way we think it will.

[deevel79]

Ali had frazier(Great fighter).... unfortunately for Mayweather nobody come close to him or Frazier in his own era for that matter.............Leonard had Duran(another great fighter)...........But who does Mayweather have to dance with on the level of duran or frazier in the opposite corner? NO-ONE not Cotto or corrales..

Floyd/Cotto....2 prime undefeated champions that were in the SAME weight-class/division. Classic matchup of slick boxer vs boxer/puncher. It would've been the closest thing to Duran vs Leonard. Im not saying this because im a big Cotto fan, but that fight there would've been Floyd's career defining fight that put him on the map with the rest of the ATG's.

Floyd vs Castillo - Contraversial decision, then Floyd came back and ud'd him in the rematch. Good win for Floyd, but not career defining.

Floyd vs Corrales- Stories of Corrales being severely weight-drained, and having personal problems outside the ring at the time

Floyd vs Hatton- Hatton was a lww that came up to fight Floyd at a weight that he had struggled in the past at with a b class fighter (Collazo)

Floyd vs Oscar- Oscar was inactive and about 10yrs past his prime.

[AceNguyen]

Maybe Floyd should have let Ricky Hatton bust him up for a while so that he could be his Duran, since apparently he's a "midget" for coming up from 140 while Duran coming from 135 was a legitimate contender. The only reason Floyd doesn't have a "career defining" match is that his defense is so good that he can make his opponents look like crap. It's as simple as that.

[2501]

Maybe Floyd should have let Ricky Hatton bust him up for a while so that he could be his Duran, since apparently he's a "midget" for coming up from 140 while Duran coming from 135 was a legitimate contender. The only reason Floyd doesn't have a "career defining" match is that his defense is so good that he can make his opponents look like crap. It's as simple as that.

why do you guys do that? why? why must you always turn floyd into some kind of victim? you know why floyd gets **** for hatton? because although there were some people thinking hatton was going to win (british) anyone with any sort of boxing knowledge knew it was a complete mismatch. yet here you are touting that win as if Floyd steam rolled through a certified ATG that who not even Duran could measure up to.