All the ATG's had a career defining fight. Which was Floyd's?

[boxaholic]

for those saying floyd doesnt have anybody good around him is lying to themselves. Love him or hate him i always respected Oscar de la hoya for going out and taking on big name fighters whether he had to move up to do so or not take big pay days to fight guys who werent big money generators or great fighters.

here are alot of fighters floyd could take on
1. Miguel Cotto
2. Antonio Margarito
3. Shane Mosley
4 Winky wright @ 154
5. Carlos Quintana
6 Vernon Forrest
7. Cory Spinks


and maybe a few middleweights can meet him at 154 for big name fights (highley unlikely) I have noticed that floyd has took the easy road at each division he has been at fighter one good fighter at that class and moving on.

I will agree with you on Cotto and Mosley, thats it. Margarito has 5 losses and the only reason he should have did it is for 8 mill bob offered. Winky bore me Wright at 154 are you serious. Quintana was a bum after the Cotto fight now he is worthy after beating Williams. Forrest has been injured for 10 years now and Cory Spinks couldn't sell enough tickets in his hometown.

[deevel79]

Well someone like you would know more than me, But something along the line of "But torres nearly KO cotto though"...."lol the same guy that corley made to dance a chicken dance" hahaha blah blah blah..something along those line if you get me.

Both those fights were at 140, where Cotto has said that he was suffering to make weight, and it took a toll on him in his fights. Since moving to 147, Cotto has been the most proven and impressive WW in the division.

[El Jesus]

I do agree, at this point, the only fight that mayweather took where it looked like he might actually get touched or knocked out was the chico fight, you can say he was weight drained or whatever but thats the same **** people say about the jones jr/toney fight and personally you are grasping for straws since like ACE said, he stayed in the class 3 years before even moving up. Either way, weather 2501 likes it or not, there is no one who looks unbeatable or untouchable thats near floyd mayweather jrs weight class. Cotto is not on that level for the simple fact that as good a talent that Cotto is, hes not on that level, by that i mean, how would cotto fair against not just someone whos the same size as him, but bigger? How would he do at 154 against someone who actually comes in at 163 or some nature like that. Thats why mayweather gets the credit he gets, because hes beaten guys that for the most part, are basically all bigger than him.

We see many ways, proven time and again as to why mayweather could likely beat everyone welterweight, granted, we all HATE that hes not fighting them all, its not like there is much of a question if he would win or not because his methods are proven time and again that hes capable of winning, at this point, fans are so frustrated with his abilities that he basically has to offensively engage these guys moreso than ever to prove his ability to excite fans. Mayweather could potshot/counterpunch his way through every single fight at this point and win, thats how good he is. Name one fighter who could do that with nearly every opponent, elite or great near his weight class. Cotto couldnt, Margarito couldnt, Quintana has already proven he couldnt etc.

Floyd at this stage of his career isnt going to have that defining fight, because when he was cleaning out 130/135, none of you cared about him, and you all look to discredit him one way or the other at that stage of his career anyway by ranting about Chicos weight issue. Hes simply that good, and if you think im nuthugging or thinking too much of him, then fine, but i if you can say with a straight face that the Cotto is on that level of skill then go ahead, but hes not.

[Grebs Ghost]

I would say bout with Corrales was breakout, even competitor high profile fight.It was also 7 years ago.

[DiegoFuego]

I would say a combination of retiring undefeated and beating De La Hoya. He pursued Oscar for his whole career, so beating Oscar on Oscar's terms and at 154 was huge. A real big part of Floyd's legacy is winning titles in 5 divisions without any real close fights (other than the first Castillo fight)

[squealpiggy]

What is Cotto's?

People aren't claiming that Cotto is an all time great. Yet.

If Mayweather is gone then that means that the Ring championship lies vacant at 147. Typically the new champ is crowned based on a fight between the top two contenders. The top two ranked contenders at 147 lbs are Cotto and Mosely. Does this mean that Cotto is automatically crowned champ?

[Burner]

Diego Corralles was his career defingin fight...he ****ing destroyed him.

[J_CON]

Hes not an ATG, but his best performance was against Diego

[ferocity]

I might be inclined to agree with you, but...:
1. Corrales had been making 130 for years and made 130 for 3 years after the fight. 3 years! Three years. I find it hard to believe that making 130 for this fight was what made him unable to land 10 punches in any round.
2. His issue wasn't with stamina, he just couldn't touch Mayweather from the opening bell. Mayweather's jabs and pull-counters were perfection and he was able to slip almost any punch that he wanted, he was just a nightmare stylistically for Corrales.

Ever notice that Lampley starts every fight saying "(insert Mayweather opponent here) says that he wants to **** on Mayweather's arms, shoulders, and body until he wears down" and yet they never do it? That's because they underestimate Mayweather's defense and counterpunching, which is why Corrales never landed the punches that he thought would come easy. It also didn't help that Corrales had comically short T-Rex arms and no jab. It had nothing to do with being weight-drained.

Go back and pick up a full broadcast copy of that fight. And you will see and hear what i have been saying and what people have been saying leading up to that fight.

Actually ESPN classic...saw his history when they show is fight with Vivian Harris son.

I knew you weren't a boxing fan when Ivan Robinson was coming up as a pro.

[abadger]

I haven't read all this thread, so I don't know what other people said, but the problem with Floyd was that there was no-one good enough to give him that fight. I cannot think of a single boxer who would realistically be even close. Best I can up with is Kostya Tsyzu and a prime Casamayor maybe, but I don't actually think either would have beaten him.

Now I know you're all going to say Cotto, but I personally just don't agree. Cotto is strong powerful, quite fast etc etc, but I think if we're realistic we all know it would just be some kind of bizarre hybrid between the Hatton and ODLH fights, ultimately dominated by Floyd's trademarked potshot leading to UD technique, with a few Hatton style exchanges along the way.