Chavez vs. Taylor I...why did Steele stop the fight!?!?!

[Dirt E Gomez]

No, he made a poor decision which inhibited Taylor from seeing a decision. I can fault him for making the decision, because in my opinion (and many others) it was a poor decision. Just like I could fault some NBA ref who called a phantom foul at the end of a game which adversely affected the game.

There is no handbook on stopping fights. It is the ref's discretion. Steele made a bad call in my opinion.

I don't even consider what he did was as making a decision. He wasn't given a decision. Taylor didn't respond. Had he responded and been on very unsteady legs and chose to stop a fight... that's a decision, following something that's not even really a judgment call isn't a decision.

Like I've said before. You can be mad that he stopped the fight because Taylor was ahead and the fight was about to be over, so you would've liked to have seen him get the nod... but you can't be mad at Steele for doing his job.

[oldgringo]

You have a problem with that? I'm content enough.

I've seen Chavez get his ass handed to him and won't make excuses for it, this particular night however, he won plain and simple. You and others are making excuses for it.

Obviously I have a problem with the outcome of the fight, so I have a problem with anyone who supports the mind numbing decision by Steele as well.

I don't care if you can admit things about Chavez. Chavez was one of my favorite fighters when I was a boy. Still one of my favorites today. That doesn't change my mind that his "0" should have gone LONG before the Randall fight.

Chavez isn't the problem though, he did what he was supposed to do. You just lost sight of that like so many others do. The problem was Steele. He made the call, not Chavez. I'm making no excuses, I'm just saying that Steele made a terrible call. You have a problem with that?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Obviously I have a problem with the outcome of the fight, so I have a problem with anyone who supports the mind numbing decision by Steele as well.

I don't care if you can admit things about Chavez. Chavez was one of my favorite fighters when I was a boy. Still one of my favorites today. That doesn't change my mind that his "0" should have gone LONG before the Randall fight.

Chavez isn't the problem though, he did what he was supposed to do. You just lost sight of that like so many others do. The problem was Steele. He made the call, not Chavez. I'm making no excuses, I'm just saying that Steele made a terrible call. You have a problem with that?

Yes, actually. Especially when it has been said already, numerous times that Steele had the best view of anyone and could see the damage inflicted to Taylor. Especially when he just saw Taylor fall to the ground from his own missed punch, especially when he asked the man a simple question two times and he didn't respond. What exactly was Steele supposed to do when he asked Taylor 2 times and didn't get a response?

You would send a fighter back out after he didn't even acknowledge your presence?

I find that strange.

[oldgringo]

I don't even consider what he did was as making a decision. He wasn't given a decision. Taylor didn't respond. Had he responded and been on very unsteady legs and chose to stop a fight... that's a decision, following something that's not even really a judgment call isn't a decision.

Like I've said before. You can be mad that he stopped the fight because Taylor was ahead and the fight was about to be over, so you would've liked to have seen him get the nod... but you can't be mad at Steele for doing his job.

I did want to see Taylor get the nod because he fought his ass off and should have been allowed to see the end of the fight in that circumstance. I don't feel the ref should have decided the outcome in this case.

Steele made a decision. Had he allowed Taylor to continue, that would have been a decision. Had he stopped it without asking Taylor anything, that would have been a decision. He didn't paint himself into a corner. He looked in Taylor's eyes after asking him the questions and stopped the fight. I feel that was a poor call on his part. That's about all I got.

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That I don't see all this pro-King bias by Steele.



Duva's a liar though. HBO showed him blatantly lying when he claimed he told Taylor to stay away and dance. They showed footage of him and Benton saying the fight was going to be decided by the 12th round and he needed the round big.

Still, his most entertaining lie is claiming he went after Roger Mayweather to "break up the fight" during the Pazienza fight.

I agree with that, when this fact was mentioned to me by someone I usually trust (possibly Manchine but I am not sure) I pointed that out and asked him if that was before or after the fight (I knew it was in legendary nights or something else *afterwards*) and they seemed pretty convinced that it was also before, I remember it was someone who would not make up bull****, they might have been wrong though.

[oldgringo]

Yes, actually. Especially when it has been said already, numerous times that Steele had the best view of anyone and could see the damage inflicted to Taylor. Especially when he just saw Taylor fall to the ground from his own missed punch, especially when he asked the man a simple question two times and he didn't respond. What exactly was Steele supposed to do when he asked Taylor 2 times and didn't get a response?

You would send a fighter back out after he didn't even acknowledge your presence?

I find that strange.

I would send a fighter back out, a proud champion like Taylor, in the 12th round of a fight so that he could decide his own fate, especially considering he rose to his feet before I could count "8" and he wasn't struggling to stay upright.

Taylor had accrued a lot of damage, so I'd come to the conclusion that he was reasonably able to continue the fight if he were on his feet and wasn't wobbling, or slumped over, or struggling to stay upright. Mel wasn't vacant, he just didn't verbally answer Steele.

Steele could have just as easily rubbed the gloves off and sent Mel back out there. He didn't. I didn't agree with his decision to stop the fight.

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I blame Duva more than I blame Steele.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I would send a fighter back out, a proud champion like Taylor, in the 12th round of a fight so that he could decide his own fate, especially considering he rose to his feet before I could count "8" and he wasn't struggling to stay upright.

Taylor had accrued a lot of damage, so I'd come to the conclusion that he was reasonably able to continue the fight if he were on his feet and wasn't wobbling, or slumped over, or struggling to stay upright. Mel wasn't vacant, he just didn't verbally answer Steele.

Steele could have just as easily rubbed the gloves off and sent Mel back out there. He didn't. I didn't agree with his decision to stop the fight.

You'd be a horrible ref then because I have never seen a ref ask a fighter if hes ok without a response back and send him back out. The job of the ref is the fighters safety first and foremost.

[MetalVomit]

all Taylor had to do was answer Steele. I simply cannot understand that controversy to this day.

[oldgringo]

You'd be a horrible ref then because I have never seen a ref ask a fighter if hes ok without a response back and send him back out. The job of the ref is the fighters safety first and foremost.

Great...the topic has devolved into this. I think Steele made a bad call, you don't, that's about all I got for you. I don't think this is going to go anywhere constructive....so toodles.