Do You Respect Fighters That Starve Themselves To Get An Advantage?

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

I look at Hop a little different, he was always in training and said himself he went to middleweight because the big guys hit too hard, that being when he lost his first fight at light heavy, his words not mine, also look at any Hop fight on HBO when they announce the weight at fight night, you never see HOP gain back alot of weight, he weighed less than 160 sometimes coming in at 156 for the weigh in, if you know anything about boxing you know you dont cut weight that much, you dont take away your strength when you dont have to, which tells me Hop was very comfortable at 160.

Hopkins isn't really different though. Just because he stayed at around about the weight doesn't mean that it should be his natural fighting weight.

Would he have got his VERY FIRST FIGHT sanctioned at LHW if he was naturally a MW?

I would like to think not...

[Bhopreign]

Hopkins isn't really different though. Just because he stayed at around about the weight doesn't mean that it should be his natural fighting weight.

Would he have got his VERY FIRST FIGHT sanctioned at LHW if he was naturally a MW?

I would like to think not...

Umm why wouldnt he its called a limit meaning as long as you dont go over 175.

[Bad_Barracuda]

Exactly, you think Oscar walked around at 130 or 135 when he campaigned there, no way, thats what Im talking about fighters who dont have to kill themselves to make weight, we know what Ricky walks around at, thats the junk Im talking about, we know what Floyd walks around at, not much than what he fights at. Therefore I look at those who kill themselves like a Margarito as being frauds because Margo knows

I remember Hopkins saying that Tito..Oscar..and Vargas..are all MIDDLEWEIGHTS..citing their walk-around weight.

He said before fighting Trinidad that

"A guy that gains that much weight in between fights will never beat me"

Hopkins and Floyd are old school..

A same day weigh-in wouldn't hurt them AT ALL..

Cotto would be out of boxing already..because he'd have to fight at 160.

They'd kill that dwarf at Middleweight

[deuce_drop]

I remember Hopkins saying that Tito..Oscar..and Vargas..are all MIDDLEWEIGHTS..citing their walk-around weight.

He said before fighting Trinidad that

"A guy that gains that much weight in between fights will never beat me"

Hopkins and Floyd are old school..

A same day weigh-in wouldn't hurt them AT ALL..
Cotto would be out of boxing already..because he'd have to fight at 160.

They'd kill that dwarf at Middleweight

you couldn't have been more right about that, nice example, well put.

[ferocity]

I have a problem with it, because in reality it really covers who the best are in each weight division. If they had weigh-ins say 6-8 hours before a fight then fighters who drained themselves would be at a disadvantage against more natural fighters in that class, then and only then will you know who real champs are. Oscar starving himself all those years and then coming into the ring insanely bigger as he was already way taller than everyone, gave him an even greater advantage. Just think, had Oscar started at his more natural weight of 147 he would never be in the HOF. Just my thoughts.

The Killer instinct Oscar Delahoya had when he first became pro would still have been there at welterweight. What we would of had is a monster punching Delahoya at welterweight before any trainer tried to make him a boxer.

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Mayweather had the advantage over his opponets at 130 and 135 look back at his fights at this weight and im surprised how big he is at that weight.

Even now, Mayweather trains 24/7 to sustain his weight at welterweight he looks like a welterweight people just confuse shortness or weight.

[letsgobrady]

Just wondered what you guys thought about this. If so name some fighters who do this.

who cares everyone has done it and it's not always an advantage sometimes it could be a disadvantage so who cares i have a bigger problem with people who fight someone from a lower weight class especially if that fighter has not proved anything in that division

[letsgobrady]

I remember Hopkins saying that Tito..Oscar..and Vargas..are all MIDDLEWEIGHTS..citing their walk-around weight.

He said before fighting Trinidad that

"A guy that gains that much weight in between fights will never beat me"

Hopkins and Floyd are old school..

A same day weigh-in wouldn't hurt them AT ALL..

Cotto would be out of boxing already..because he'd have to fight at 160.

They'd kill that dwarf at Middleweight

hopkins was a light heavyweight fighting at middleweight

[Scott9945]

You could be right and that makes sense, just wish it wasnt that way, then we would have fighters fighting at weights they really should be at and we would see that they arnt as good or as imposing as some people think they are.

I agree with that. But you won't find many boxers that agree. They feel making weight on the same day isn't safe. It isn't, but it's all relative I guess.

[deuce_drop]

hopkins was a light heavyweight fighting at middleweight

for over 11 years and he walked around at middleweight when he was fighting at middle weight, never excedding 169lbs between fights.

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hopkins was a light heavyweight fighting at middleweight

he fought at middleweight for over 11 years and never let his weight exceed 169lbs between fights.....................

sorry for the double post, computer is fussing up.