Do You Respect Fighters That Starve Themselves To Get An Advantage?

[Bad_Barracuda]

Pavlik and Taylor and Hopkins are huge ****-off middleweights.

Hopkins walked around very close to his fighting weight..

You don't know what you're talking about.

[shadeyfizzle]

Weight draining will always be part of the sport regardless of whether or not they have same day weigh-ins because you ink your biggest fights months ahead of time. There cases of fighters having to run an extra couple of miles day of the fight to lose that last pound in the same day weigh-in era and still dominating. There are cases of guys blowing up 10lbs night after the weighin in this era and still comes out sluggish and get owned by the smaller fighter because rehydrating that much in a short time span aint exactly very smart neither

[Burner]

Well, one is tall, black, and fights this weekend.

Calzaghe starves himself........

[Scott9945]

Agreed, I wonder when they stopped same day weigh ins.

You want to know the REAL reason? It was so that the promoters could get publicity on a Friday to hype the gate and the TV audience for the fight for the next day. Saturday it would get lost in all the other sports news. I can almost guarantee you that having the Mayweather-Hatton weigh in on Friday made the promotion a million dollars more with the media circus it was.

[Bhopreign]

Hopkins walked around very close to his fighting weight..

You don't know what you're talking about.

Exactly, you think Oscar walked around at 130 or 135 when he campaigned there, no way, thats what Im talking about fighters who dont have to kill themselves to make weight, we know what Ricky walks around at, thats the junk Im talking about, we know what Floyd walks around at, not much than what he fights at. Therefore I look at those who kill themselves like a Margarito as being frauds because Margo knows

[deuce_drop]

it's a part of boxing just like it is a part of wrestling, they have done it since the beggining of the sport/sports.

personally, it doesn't bother me, but at the same time, it makes you wonder if the fighter is as good as he appears. beating up on guys that are smaller is one thing when you stay at a certain weight fighting guys that are coming up in weight, but dropping down to fight guys, to me, kind of takes away from the boxing skill and really is misleading when it comes to there power.

now, one of my favorite fighters dropped weight, being 5'10 and fighting at 130-135, but in actuality chico fighting at 140-147, he would've been too small, mainly because of guys dropping into those weights, so it's kind of the trickle down effect.

it bothers me but at the same time it doesn't, because every fighter an drop weight and fight at a lower weight class.

personally i think stay at the same weight is a lot tougher than it is to drop weight to fight at a lower weight class. i think it takes more discipline to maintain yo0ur weight in and out of the ring and i also think that it says something about ones boxing abilities because there really isnt that much of a weight advantage everytime they fight.

i would have to say that hopkins and calzaghe have been prime examples of being disciplined and letting their skill do the talking rather than take obvious advantage in dropping weight and mauling smaller guys, the guys that they fought that were smaller were dudes that dropped down in weight to beat up on the smaller guys, and when they couldn't drop weight no more they're forced to move up in weight, and they try and hide that saying that they're moving up for the challenge, which is bull**** because ha dthey really wanted the challenge they would've fought at their walking around weight or at a fitness level weight, instead of dropping 30+, 40+lbs to fight.

plus dropping all that weight and gaining it again, yo-yo dieting, is a terrible thing to do to your body. trinidad is a prime example of that, the majority of his career he was dropping 40 lbs some times more to make weight from where he was at with his weight in between fights, now trinidad can't make it below 170lbs, his body won't let him and he knows it. i wouldn't be surprised in the near future that it play some kind of problems on his health.

fair or unfair, it's a part of the game and everyone has the option of doing it..................

[Bhopreign]

You want to know the REAL reason? It was so that the promoters could get publicity on a Friday to hype the gate and the TV audience for the fight for the next day. Saturday it would get lost in all the other sports news. I can almost guarantee you that having the Mayweather-Hatton weigh in on Friday made the promotion a million dollars more with the media circus it was.

You could be right and that makes sense, just wish it wasnt that way, then we would have fighters fighting at weights they really should be at and we would see that they arnt as good or as imposing as some people think they are.

[sparked_85]

Hopkins walked around very close to his fighting weight..

You don't know what you're talking about.

yet debut at light heavyweight.

Hopkins is a big man. Your mum knows that.

[Bhopreign]

it's a part of boxing just like it is a part of wrestling, they have done it since the beggining of the sport/sports.

personally, it doesn't bother me, but at the same time, it makes you wonder if the fighter is as good as he appears. beating up on guys that are smaller is one thing when you stay at a certain weight fighting guys that are coming up in weight, but dropping down to fight guys, to me, kind of takes away from the boxing skill and really is misleading when it comes to there power.

now, one of my favorite fighters dropped weight, being 5'10 and fighting at 130-135, but in actuality chico fighting at 140-147, he would've been too small, mainly because of guys dropping into those weights, so it's kind of the trickle down effect.

it bothers me but at the same time it doesn't, because every fighter an drop weight and fight at a lower weight class.

personally i think stay at the same weight is a lot tougher than it is to drop weight to fight at a lower weight class. i think it takes more discipline to maintain yo0ur weight in and out of the ring and i also think that it says something about ones boxing abilities because there really isnt that much of a weight advantage everytime they fight.

i would have to say that hopkins and calzaghe have been prime examples of being disciplined and letting their skill do the talking rather than take obvious advantage in dropping weight and mauling smaller guys, the guys that they fought that were smaller were dudes that dropped down in weight to beat up on the smaller guys, and when they couldn't drop weight no more they're forced to move up in weight, and they try and hide that saying that they're moving up for the challenge, which is bull**** because ha dthey really wanted the challenge they would've fought at their walking around weight or at a fitness level weight, instead of dropping 30+, 40+lbs to fight.

plus dropping all that weight and gaining it again, yo-yo dieting, is a terrible thing to do to your body. trinidad is a prime example of that, the majority of his career he was dropping 40 lbs some times more to make weight from where he was at with his weight in between fights, now trinidad can't make it below 170lbs, his body won't let him and he knows it. i wouldn't be surprised in the near future that it play some kind of problems on his health.

fair or unfair, it's a part of the game and everyone has the option of doing it..................

Great post.

[Mr. Philadel]

Paul Williams is the MOST obvious right now! B-Hop could've fought at LHW mad years ago, DLH's last 2 fights have been at catch weights above his opponents normal weight, Miranda and JT both used to drain until they got KTFO'd by Pavlik (who also is starvin himself to make 160) Cotto is a Super Welter or Middleweight just like Tony! Very few fight at their natural weight! Its a shame but true!