Do You Respect Fighters That Starve Themselves To Get An Advantage?

[Scott9945]

You could be right and that makes sense, just wish it wasnt that way, then we would have fighters fighting at weights they really should be at and we would see that they arnt as good or as imposing as some people think they are.

I agree with that. But you won't find many boxers that do. They feel making weight on the same day isn't safe. It isn't, but it's all relative I guess.

[letsgobrady]

I look at Hop a little different, he was always in training and said himself he went to middleweight because the big guys hit too hard, that being when he lost his first fight at light heavy, his words not mine, also look at any Hop fight on HBO when they announce the weight at fight night, you never see HOP gain back alot of weight, he weighed less than 160 sometimes coming in at 156 for the weigh in, if you know anything about boxing you know you dont cut weight that much, you dont take away your strength when you dont have to, which tells me Hop was very comfortable at 160.

didn't hbo say that bernard refused to get weighed again the day of the calzaghe fight so how do you know that bernard didn't gain weight between the fight and the weigh in

[Bhopreign]

The Killer instinct Oscar Delahoya had when he first became pro would still have been there at welterweight. What we would of had is a monster punching Delahoya at welterweight before any trainer tried to make him a boxer.

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Mayweather had the advantage over his opponets at 130 and 135 look back at his fights at this weight and im surprised how big he is at that weight.

Even now, Mayweather trains 24/7 to sustain his weight at welterweight he looks like a welterweight people just confuse shortness or weight.

Floyd doesnt train to stay around 147, he trains because he is addicted to it. Oscar would never get in the HOF if he had started at 147, killer instinct or no killer instinct.

[Bhopreign]

who cares everyone has done it and it's not always an advantage sometimes it could be a disadvantage so who cares i have a bigger problem with people who fight someone from a lower weight class especially if that fighter has not proved anything in that division

Like Oscar fighting Forbes.

[Bhopreign]

didn't hbo say that bernard refused to get weighed again the day of the calzaghe fight so how do you know that bernard didn't gain weight between the fight and the weigh in

Of course he gained weight, Im talking about between fights, read the thread instead of jumping midway and think you know what youre talking about, nobody is talking about what youre referring to.

[Boofdatruth]

Agreed, I wonder when they stopped same day weigh ins.

it was dangerous for fighters to starve up to the day of the fight.............if a fighter can make weight, there is no gurantee he will have an advantage.......gatti was going to destroy gamache regardless...........paul williams is not trying to gain any advantage.......people said the same thing about cotto..........they said the same thing about baldomir..........about gerald mcclellan.........there is no advantage...........from the outside.............fans who don't box...........see this as an advantage.........boxers don't...............they love to beat up on a bigger guy............floyd loves it...........gamache hated it...............

[letsgobrady]

he fought at middleweight for over 11 years and never let his weight exceed 169lbs between fights.....................

sorry for the double post, computer is fussing up.

how do you know how much bernard weigh when he is not fighting? if bernard was not a gym rat he wouldn't have been able to sustain that weight like he did. how much did bernard weigh on fight night when he fought calzaghe? i remember hbo said that bernard refused to be weighed the day of the fight, i wonder why?

[Boofdatruth]

Bernard Hopkins (did).

no he didn't............all you have to do is check hops weight..........you can accuse hagler of this, monzon.............hop was always in tip-top condition.........he even came to 156, and weighed in like 159 for the dlh fight.........

[letsgobrady]

Of course he gained weight, Im talking about between fights, read the thread instead of jumping midway and think you know what youre talking about, nobody is talking about what youre referring to.

how could bernard be a naturall middlewight if he probably weighed close to 190 against calzaghe

[Bhopreign]

it was dangerous for fighters to starve up to the day of the fight.............if a fighter can make weight, there is no gurantee he will have an advantage.......gatti was going to destroy gamache regardless...........paul williams is not trying to gain any advantage.......people said the same thing about cotto..........they said the same thing about baldomir..........about gerald mcclellan.........there is no advantage...........from the outside.............fans who don't box...........see this as an advantage.........boxers don't...............they love to beat up on a bigger guy............floyd loves it...........gamache hated it...............

Dude I boxed when I was little, there is an advantage, for the most part not only are you more than likely going to be taller than the other fighter, but your natural body frame is more than likely bigger since you are bigger than that fighter, everybody dont STARVE themselves to make weight, people are confusing training with STARVING. You can say Gatti would have beaten Gamache regardless but the fact is if he hadnt STARVED himself to make weight they would have never fought anyway therefore can you say Gatti would have always destroyed a natural 147 lber who was decent, no.