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  • Clegg
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    #41
    Originally posted by BatTheMan
    It's always been there. Especially among the brit heavies. Take Frank Bruno for instance.

    The brits have always been very passionate of their fighters and boxing in itself has always been a major sport. Much more so than in any other european country. In GB boxing was (and still is?) a significant sport on boarding schools as well as public schools. So the brits has always provided good 'opponents' to housefighters all over europe. The point here is that boxing is much more popular and has a larger following than any other place in the world traditionally, so when they see a good prospect the brits always wants him to conquer the world.

    The more I think about it it's not just boxing, but probably all sports. Tim Henman is another example of a (over)hypejob.

    But you gotta love the brits they are so passionate about their fighters. Even more so when they lose. Take Henry Cooper. He was a very good HW but the brits didn't love him to begin with because he dethroned their big hero (who's name I've forgotten, maybe Joe Erskine or something). But that changed when he lost to Cassius Clay because of the way he lost. After that ol' 'enry and 'enry's 'ammer was adored by the british public transcending the sport to become a household name among all the brits not only the boxing fraternity.


    Sorry fellas I got a little carried away from the topic, but the brits are a special breed and I love'em (when they don't give me red for mentioning that Lewis picked up his belt from the bin )
    Lol too many people on here take things seriously and give out red k too easily. On a related note I was recently watching an old Lennox Lewis VHS tape that I have and his promoter claimed that Bowe-Lewis was set to go ahead after the first McCall fight, but apparently after Lewis lost the Bowe camp pulled out. That doesn't really make sense to me, why give up a belt and then fight Lewis anyway? Probably Maloney (Lewis' promoter) talking rubbish.

    For some reason us Brits seem to love the guy who shows heart and vulnerability in failure rather than the guy who succeeds. Bruno was always much more liked than Lewis, although some of that probably had to do with Lewis being seen as Canadian. Another example is how Eubank's popularity seemed to peak around the end of his career, after he lost a few times but showed a lot of heart in doing so. I wasn't watching boxing at the time but apparently he got a lot of unfair criticism for what happened to Michael Watson as well.

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    • Ray*
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      #42
      Am a brit who think Wlad would beat Haye but i wouldnt rule out a haye win, Its just amazing how some people could think wlad cannot lose to haye, Anything can happen in HW boxing.

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      • Jambo boy
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        #43
        Most yanks are probably of british descent if you trace their linage back far enough.

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        • bsrizpac
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          #44
          Originally posted by Jamboboy
          Most yanks are probably of british descent if you trace their linage back far enough.
          WRONG. Try again.

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          • The Monk
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            #45
            Originally posted by bsrizpac
            WRONG. Try again.
            The lucky yanks are of British descent if you trace their lineage back far enough...?

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            • TommyGunn.
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              #46
              Originally posted by Hitman932
              wlad has more handspeed now than either thompson or mormeck had when they fought haye... i dont buy klitschko being slow at all

              that is just something people point out because he is big, white and they cant find anything else to criticize.
              Good because i aint selling it, watch him fight, he aint fast.

              Both would be just as "fast" as Wlad. I doubt you've even seen him fight now.

              He is not Sam Peter slow but he's not exactly "fast" as you put it.

              Not to mension Haye has improved a lot since fighting those guys.

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              • elgaringo
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                #47
                Originally posted by abadger
                I'm a Brit, and I think Wlad will beat Haye.

                Im also British and I think Wlad should be favorite and has all the atributes to frustrate the hell out of Haye and KO him mid to late rounds.

                but for me it depends on how elusive Haye can be and if he can make Wlad make mistakes then make him pay. But anyway I think Wlad will win but id be routing for Haye all the way

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                • beecherhq
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                  #48
                  I was gonna not bother sounding off about this potential fight but i honestly believe if haye has a couple of good tune up fights at heavy he is knocking wlad out in the middle rounds.

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                  • dog1dog2
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                    #49
                    The way I see it, this entire argument is extremely premature. Haye needs to first prove that he can defeat a few physically large, world class heavyweights before I even consider his odds against a 6-7, 245# giant of a champ like Wlad. So until I see that from Haye, the entire debate is essentially moot IMO. If and only if Haye demonstrates that he can handle some substantial heavies will it then be time to start pondering the "Wlad" question.

                    Furthermore, it's not like we have a substantial body of work to see how Haye himself will respond physically to fighting with a bodyweight of over 200#.....that still remains to be seen.

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