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  • BattlingNelson
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    #21
    Watch from 8:15. The Hayemaker lands........ on the floor.

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    • Clegg
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      #22
      Originally posted by BatTheMan
      Watch from 8:15. The Hayemaker lands........ on the floor.

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      You make a good point, but have you considered







      I am a Haye fan and I think he's good for the division. I'll be supporting the guy win, lose or draw.
      Last edited by Clegg; 06-03-2008, 11:38 AM.

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      • British_boxing
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        #23
        [QUOTE=Stickman;3569213]From what I've seen of Haye, he isn't as aggressive as Sanders was, not nearly so. Sanders basically blitzed Klitchko, got him shaken, and then moved in for the kill like a true predator. I simply don't think Haye is capable of the same thing, QUOTE]

        Did you not watch the enzo fight?

        Also what people dont realise about the carl thompson fight is, it was only haye's 11th pro fight against an ex world champion and it was for the IBO cruiserweight title, which wlad holds the heavyweight version at the moment. that in itself should tell you about the haye.
        Please shut up about this fight.

        Also if watch his interviews, especially the ones with westwood and tim lovejoy, this guy lives and breathes this sport, one example was his entrance music to the enzo fight was a nod to i think larry holmes, who used the same track. You add adam booth to the equation you have the most knowledgeable partnership in boxing today.

        Compare this to the likes of sam peter and wlad, who dont have a ****ing clue, this is why so many brits are backing haye to win.

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        • TommyGunn.
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          #24
          Originally posted by danny stash
          That thinks Wlad can beat Haye. I mean holy ****, not one Brit on here is capable of making an educated decision on who would win this fight. How the hell can ANYONE really think that Haye has anything else but a punchers chance and a small one at that? Haye got slapped around by Carl Thompson. I know I know Corey Sanders..Wlad is a completely different fighter now and I will give Haye the benefit as well but man some of you people are delusional to believe that Haye would annihilate the best heavy in the world.

          For the record I am not from the Ukraine, just looking at the facts.
          Heres my take. Im a brit who thinks Haye beats Wlad.

          IMO Hayes speed and power will win him this fight. Wlad has an awesome jab but these stiff HW's are right there to be hit by it because there movement is so poor.

          Haye can move and he shows a very good viarity of angles when he does this, he will NOT be a standing slow target for Wlad to tee off on.

          I just cant see past Wlad being down 11 times in his career either, he's been knocked down and out by lesser punchers than Haye in the past.

          I think it will be a Haye win inside 4 rounds.

          On the flip side of that though it is the HW division and any fighter can be KO'd at any given time.

          Haye has all the tools in his favor though, his skill, speed, power and movement will give Wlad nightmares.

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          • danny stash
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            #25
            Originally posted by TommyGunn.
            Heres my take. Im a brit who thinks Haye beats Wlad.

            IMO Hayes speed and power will win him this fight. Wlad has an awesome jab but these stiff HW's are right there to be hit by it because there movement is so poor.

            Haye can move and he shows a very good viarity of angles when he does this, he will NOT be a standing slow target for Wlad to tee off on.

            I just cant see past Wlad being down 11 times in his career either, he's been knocked down and out by lesser punchers than Haye in the past.

            I think it will be a Haye win inside 4 rounds.

            On the flip side of that though it is the HW division and any fighter can be KO'd at any given time.

            Haye has all the tools in his favor though, his skill, speed, power and movement will give Wlad nightmares.
            very intelligent argument with good points...

            thank you

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            • ~Lucky13~
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              #26
              Originally posted by TommyGunn.
              Heres my take. Im a brit who thinks Haye beats Wlad.

              IMO Hayes speed and power will win him this fight. Wlad has an awesome jab but these stiff HW's are right there to be hit by it because there movement is so poor.

              Wlad's movement is NOT poor! Wlad's footwork is better than any of Haye's bum opponents. And I call them bums because the cruiserweight division has always been, and it's still is a JOKE!

              Haye can move and he shows a very good viarity of angles when he does this, he will NOT be a standing slow target for Wlad to tee off on.

              You forgot to mention Haye's low left hand, Wlad distracts him with the jab and before you know it, Haye is down from a right hand he didn't see! That's the way it goes!!! You seen what happened to Taylor against someone with a distracting jab and a lethal right hand, same story here, or at least similar!

              I just cant see past Wlad being down 11 times in his career either, he's been knocked down and out by lesser punchers than Haye in the past.

              And he's been up every time, he was NEVER down for the 10 count and that means something!!! Wlad can get up and win!


              I think it will be a Haye win inside 4 rounds.

              Would you put real money on it?! That's what it comes down to...

              On the flip side of that though it is the HW division and any fighter can be KO'd at any given time.

              Haye has all the tools in his favor though, his skill, speed, power and movement will give Wlad nightmares.

              Haye is smaller, Wlad has more skill, more power, he's proved it against real competition and I'd say they're pretty even in movement, the only thing Haye got the edge in is speed, BUT Wlad's incredible timing more than makes up for it!!!

              Edited my response!

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              • BattlingNelson
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                #27
                Originally posted by Clegg
                You make a good point, but have you considered







                I am a Haye fan and I think he's good for the division. I'll be supporting the guy win, lose or draw.
                I just wanted to post the video. No points made. I like Haye and think that he's a breath of fresh air. I hope for him and british boxing that he gets a fine career at HW.

                My opinions regarding the hype surrounding him is another matter. Some brits get's too carried away by watching Haye crush Macca and instantaneously think that he is a second coming of Lennox Lewis.

                And that is wishful thinking especially since he hasn't proven anything yet.

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                • -CANE-
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by danny stash
                  That thinks Wlad can beat Haye. I mean holy ****, not one Brit on here is capable of making an educated decision on who would win this fight. How the hell can ANYONE really think that Haye has anything else but a punchers chance and a small one at that? Haye got slapped around by Carl Thompson. I know I know Corey Sanders..Wlad is a completely different fighter now and I will give Haye the benefit as well but man some of you people are delusional to believe that Haye would annihilate the best heavy in the world.

                  For the record I am not from the Ukraine, just looking at the facts.

                  Haven't seen anything significant of Haye at Heavyweight to honestly say. But if you were to ask me now then Haye has a punchers chance that's it.

                  I disagree with anyone that thinks Haye can outbox him, Wlad is far superior in that department and much much bigger. But I'd give Haye a better chance against Wlad than his older brother Vitali.

                  Wlad is good, but not a great.

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                  • -Swizzy-
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by azza
                    No idea who will win until i see the fight.

                    Who has a better chance at Wlad than Haye though? Nobody.
                    Originally posted by kayjay
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                    • Kris Silver
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                      #30
                      I'm a Brit, and thing Wlad will beat Haye.

                      If Haye doesn't perform above 90%.

                      See.

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