Is their one person of British descent on here ...

[T-97]

I said they both are different fighters...

Oh yeah ..so you did

However, you said that the Sanders fight was compeatly moot and Haye was only given the benifit of the doubt. So i don't look like a compleat moron

[Tuggers1986]

I'm a Brit, and I think Wlad will beat Haye.

Me too!!

[danny stash]

Me too!!

To add a footnote I would like to see Haye raise to glory ala Holyfield but dont know if he can do it. Also in a year or so a couple of good fights for Haye and 20 lbs or so I would love to see this fight. BUT right now, no way.

[RichCCFC]

I think Wlad will win.

[Pugilistic™]

i'm a brit and i think wlad would win.

[Addition]

I stated numerous times that Wlad would KO Haye, hell, I even made a thread for **** sake. So think before you make **** threads such as this.

[RichCCFC]

[Stickman]

I love how Haye being beat by Carl Tompson is relelvent but Wlad being beat by Sanders isnt...

Yes Wlad has changed since then but so has Haye.....

So unless your post is meant to be biased...You might wanna choose one way or the other man.

From what I've seen of Haye, he isn't as aggressive as Sanders was, not nearly so. Sanders basically blitzed Klitchko, got him shaken, and then moved in for the kill like a true predator. I simply don't think Haye is capable of the same thing, and even if he were, Klitchko has learned alot since then. Up to that point, he was more aggressive himself, and left himself vulerable more because of it. He's now more measured and tactical about his approach, and is far less likely to get caught moving forward, or during hard pressure from his opponent. Also, Haye is decent power for his size, which, at cruiserweight can deliver some spectacular KO's. He doesn't have the power that Sanders did, not even close. Sanders, while not quite the puncher that Foreman and Shavers were, wasn't far from it at all, just a small degree. Haye's power is somewhat more akin to that of Tyson. Quick accurate punches that, when put in the right spot, are more than enough to do the trick. I think Sam Peter is a heavier puncher than Haye, and he couldn't manage to do more than stun Klitchko. I just don't think Haye has the brute force needed to shake Klitchko with a single punch like Sanders did. He does have the power to win by KO, but it would be from either a combination, or by getting in a perfect shot early in a round and then putting together enough solid punches to get the ref to stop it. There won't be any 1 punch KO ending from Haye against Klitchko. And if he gains too much weight, he might end up slowing just enough that he won't be able to land cleanly at all, which will cause him to lose either by KO, or a wide margined with several knockdowns scored by Klitchko. Remember, Haye does NOT fight tall, he comes in low, doesn't throw many combinations, and doesn't keep his guard up high enough at all. This is a recipe for disaster against Klitchko. I hope he changes dramatically, or any match between the two will end within just a round or two.

[danny stash]

yeah I feel so OWNED...that whole expression is way over ****ing used. Owned is saying something like your best 2 fighters are Calzaghe and Hatton. Hatton is a smurf who got OWNED by Floyd Mayweather. And Calzaghe got knocked on his by a 42 year old Bernard Hopkins.

That's owned douche...

I am not owned because I missed jeeves thread.

[ATFsven]

I think Haye can win after a couple of tuneups.
I think he has long arms and the overhand right can and will catch Vlad and take him out.

I am a brit