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  • warp1432
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    #21
    Really?

    Fighting anyone coming off a loss is not a great win to be honest.
    Because you just said it wasn't.

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      #22
      Originally posted by warp1432
      True.



      Not true. Margarito has a **** resume and Clottey and Cintron plus a big name (well if it's Cotto then I guess), is not better then Baldomir and Judah. Floyd's resume at 147 isn't even that bad.

      I personally repsect the lineal championship because it's the thing you have to beat the man. Nate Campbell is not the lightweight champion. Miguel Cotto is not the Welterweight champion (even if he has a better resume at 147).

      Thing is the Zslot Erdei case is really the only exception where I don't recognize him because back when Hill and DM unified it was still an unknown **** belt and so it wasn't considered a major title.

      Margarito has a **** resume?

      Hes beaten more top ten ranked welterweights than anyone else.

      I just noticed that you're 15 though. I guess you can't help it. You were 9 when Margarito first won his title.

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        #23
        Originally posted by warp1432
        Really?



        Because you just said it wasn't.
        Boom. That was crushing. It would have been even better had it been on the same page as my post, because then you could see exactly how bad your post just beat mine up.

        I guess I am going to have to amend my statement about any fighter coming off of a loss aren't I now?

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          #24
          Originally posted by DWiens421
          Fighting anyone coming off a loss is not a great win to be honest.

          Especially when that fighter has lost AGAIN to the only elite fighter he has fought since.

          I've always said Judah was a good fighter, but it is becoming more and more apparent that he is only a great fighter for the first few rounds.
          Youre funny, just because somebody loses doesnt mean anything, Floyd lost 6 amateur fights, you think it helped his opponent coming into the next fight? Obviously you have gone with the majority on this one, because thats the first thing they said before when Zab lost to Baldy, even though Floyd was supposed to fight Zab before the Baldy fight was even made. When the Patriots lose, you think it hinders them going into the next game? If anything you learn from it and not do the thing that caused you to lose, journalists and writers said this about the Zab fight to discredit Floyd if he shoudl win anyway, its no different than what Merchant does whomever Floyd fights, the only time a loss is bad going into the next fight is if that fight took something out of the fighter as in they really got beat up not so in Zab's case.

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            #25
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            Fighting anyone coming off a loss is not a great win to be honest.

            Especially when that fighter has lost AGAIN to the only elite fighter he has fought since.

            I've always said Judah was a good fighter, but it is becoming more and more apparent that he is only a great fighter for the first few rounds.
            Cotto fought Judah coming off a loss...and he gets credit for it.

            Why the double-standard?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Bad_Barracuda
              Cotto fought Judah coming off a loss...and he gets credit for it.

              Why the double-standard?
              He isnt making any sense.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Bad_Barracuda
                Cotto fought Judah coming off a loss...and he gets credit for it.

                Why the double-standard?
                I already got smacked the **** up for this by Warp... you 2 are too late!

                He gets some credit, just like Floyd, but really, Mosley is a better win than everyone else on Floyd's resume, and Quintana certainly helps too.

                I am definately retracting the coming off a loss statement, not because of Cotto-Judah, but the fact that beating Mosley right now would still be a very big deal.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by DWiens421
                  I already got smacked the **** up for this by Warp... you 2 are too late!

                  He gets some credit, just like Floyd, but really, Mosley is a better win than everyone else on Floyd's resume, and Quintana certainly helps too.

                  I am definately retracting the coming off a loss statement, not because of Cotto-Judah, but the fact that beating Mosley right now would still be a very big deal.
                  Mosley is a good win, but in the sense that it showed me Cotto is smart in the ring, Shane isnt smart in the ring and never has been, had he been smart he would have did what won him rounds and that is box, but he isnt a cerebral fighter. Its a thinking man's game and Shane has gotten really far on speed and strength. Had boxing been a really legit sport and had weigh-ins the day of the fight, guys like Shane and Oscar wouldnt sniff the Hall of Fame.

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                  • warp1432
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Pelon Psyclone

                    Margarito has a **** resume?

                    Hes beaten more top ten ranked welterweights than anyone else.

                    I just noticed that you're 15 though. I guess you can't help it. You were 9 when Margarito first won his title.
                    That's nice. He's beaten more top ten ranked welters (who I'm sure were more towards the bottom) because he's been around the longest.

                    Margarito's 5 best wins:
                    -Kermit Cintron
                    -Joshua Clottey
                    -Subajistian Lujan (sorry if I butchered this name)
                    - Andrew "Six Heads" Lewis (Already lost to Mayorga)
                    -Antonio Diaz (already lost to Shane Mosley)

                    Boom. That was crushing. It would have been even better had it been on the same page as my post, because then you could see exactly how bad your post just beat mine up.

                    I guess I am going to have to amend my statement about any fighter coming off of a loss aren't I now?
                    Was that sarcasm ? Pssh. Though Mosley coming off a loss to Cotto wouldn't be as bad as Judah coming off a loss to Baldomir to be honest. However, it wouldn't put him above Mayweather's resume at 147.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      I already got smacked the **** up for this by Warp... you 2 are too late!

                      He gets some credit, just like Floyd, but really, Mosley is a better win than everyone else on Floyd's resume, and Quintana certainly helps too.

                      I am definately retracting the coming off a loss statement, not because of Cotto-Judah, but the fact that beating Mosley right now would still be a very big deal.
                      Floyd beating Oscar at 154 beats the **** outta' Cotto's win over 36 y/o Shane at Welter..

                      It takes a LOT out of a guy Shane's age to MOVE BACK DOWN..

                      Floyd would have whipped the Shane Cotto fought...but I doubt Cotto could have beat the Oscar that Mayweather fought..especially at 154.

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