Fernando Montiel Blasts Luis Maldonado in Three

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  • warp1432
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    #21
    Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
    the mijares vs montiel fight its not really likely to happen
    both of these guys promoters talked in the past and couldnt reach an agreement
    after the fight was over montiel said he would like to fight mijares but he was not gonna wait for him he said hes planning to move up to bantamweight to win his third title in 3 different weight classes
    BOOOO.

    I'll bet you 10k though if the fight ever happens.

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      #22
      If Nonito Danaire could get a fight with either of these fighters(Montiel or Mijares)then i would favor him to beat both of them. I see Donaire as being the future of the pound for pound list. He is definitely the real deal and the man at flyweight. Mijares is good, but he should have beaten Maldonado and Munoz a lot more convincingly than he did. He actually fought to a draw with Maldonado. Not that Maldonado is a bad fighter, but Montiel and Donaire dominated and knocked him out.

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        #23
        How can you beat Munoz more convincingly? Mijares put on a clinic. Besides, Munoz isn't a bad fighter (he's actually really good) at all. He did well for the first couple rounds, but once Mijares got into his rythm it was all him. I only gave rounds 1 and 7 to Munoz. You can argue about 2 and 12, but Mijares still won the fight very clearly and showed great defense

        I'm pretty sure the Jorge Arce win puts that draw behind him. Mijares would knock out Maldanado if they had a rematch though.

        Oh and Montiel and Mijares would both beat Donaire. Maybe Montiel would lose to Donaire, but Mijares wouldn't.

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          #24
          Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16
          If Nonito Danaire could get a fight with either of these fighters(Montiel or Mijares)then i would favor him to beat both of them. I see Donaire as being the future of the pound for pound list. He is definitely the real deal and the man at flyweight. Mijares is good, but he should have beaten Maldonado and Munoz a lot more convincingly than he did. He actually fought to a draw with Maldonado. Not that Maldonado is a bad fighter, but Montiel and Donaire dominated and knocked him out.
          donaire is way too inexperienced for montiel, when donaire made his pro debut montiel was already the wbo flyweight champion if u match them up right now montiel wins by ko no doubt
          mijares is a p4p boxer he would give the green donaire a boxing lesson
          just because donaire has 2 impressive wins doesnt mean he is capable of beating the 2 best guys in the weight division above him thats just absurd

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            #25
            Originally posted by warp1432
            How can you beat Munoz more convincingly? Mijares put on a clinic. Besides, Munoz isn't a bad fighter (he's actually really good) at all. He did well for the first couple rounds, but once Mijares got into his rythm it was all him. I only gave rounds 1 and 7 to Munoz. You can argue about 2 and 12, but Mijares still won the fight very clearly and showed great defense

            I'm pretty sure the Jorge Arce win puts that draw behind him. Mijares would knock out Maldanado if they had a rematch though.

            Oh and Montiel and Mijares would both beat Donaire. Maybe Montiel would lose to Donaire, but Mijares wouldn't.
            Mijares is good just a technical fighter but with no power... Look at Mijares KO ratio.. He has only 14 KO in 35 Wins? Donaire is slick, very fast with his jab, Excellent footspeed and good counter punching skills.. Donaire has a 1 punch KO power like Montiel... Mijares has no power that could KO A Level fighter..

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              #26
              Originally posted by warp1432
              How can you beat Munoz more convincingly? Mijares put on a clinic. Besides, Munoz isn't a bad fighter (he's actually really good) at all. He did well for the first couple rounds, but once Mijares got into his rythm it was all him. I only gave rounds 1 and 7 to Munoz. You can argue about 2 and 12, but Mijares still won the fight very clearly and showed great defense

              I'm pretty sure the Jorge Arce win puts that draw behind him. Mijares would knock out Maldanado if they had a rematch though.

              Oh and Montiel and Mijares would both beat Donaire. Maybe Montiel would lose to Donaire, but Mijares wouldn't.
              I would glady take a bet if Donaire fights any of them. What Donaire did to Darchinayin and Maldonado was special. This kid is a serious force to be reckon with. I have seen Mijares fight Arce and must admit that he looked damn good, but Jorge was talior made for him. A come foward fighter with no defense that looks to get on the inside and make a fight out of it. It was a great win, but Jorge does not have a lot of technical ability, especially none like Donaire. Munoz is another puncher who doesn't possess many skills. Donaire is a big framed flyweight, skillful counter puncher and powerful puncher that could not only play the part of the out boxer, but he could also bring the fight him and break his will.
              Last edited by slicksouthpaw16; 06-01-2008, 01:32 AM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
                donaire is way too inexperienced for montiel, when donaire made his pro debut montiel was already the wbo flyweight champion if u match them up right now montiel wins by ko no doubt
                mijares is a p4p boxer he would give the green donaire a boxing lesson
                just because donaire has 2 impressive wins doesnt mean he is capable of beating the 2 best guys in the weight division above him thats just absurd
                Gorres outboxed Montiel and even Ring Magazine and several sports analyst had Gorres by 2 points. Gorres doesn't know how to counter... I give Mijares a competitive fight with Donaire but Donaire will outbox and counter Montiel all night long..

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                  Mijares is good just a technical fighter but with no power... Look at Mijares KO ratio.. He has only 14 KO in 35 Wins? Donaire is slick, very fast with his jab, Excellent footspeed and good counter punching skills.. Donaire has a 1 punch KO power like Montiel... Mijares has no power that could KO A Level fighter..
                  Mijares KOd Kawashima who was a very good fighter. Tough test for anyone in that division. Mijares has better defense and is a southpaw. Maldonado had some effect when he switched to it against Donaire. Mijares also has excellent footspeed, great counter punching (if not better), and is slicker.

                  For having one punch KO power it sure took him a lot of shots to KO Maldonado.

                  Also you guys haven't even seen Maldonado vs Mijares. Mijares might have actually had problems with it (which I could see because of Maldonado's switch hitting comefoward style.), but Mijares has had such bad decisions against him lately it's hard to tell if Maldonaldo actually got a draw with him.
                  Last edited by warp1432; 06-01-2008, 01:35 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by ElGranLuchador
                    donaire is way too inexperienced for montiel, when donaire made his pro debut montiel was already the wbo flyweight champion if u match them up right now montiel wins by ko no doubt
                    mijares is a p4p boxer he would give the green donaire a boxing lesson
                    just because donaire has 2 impressive wins doesnt mean he is capable of beating the 2 best guys in the weight division above him thats just absurd
                    Its easy to look at a record and say that a fighter is too inexperienced to fight another. Donaire only had 17 wins to Darchinyan's 28, he dominated and brutally knocked out Darchinyan. Chad Dawson only had 22 to Adamek's 31wins at the time that he beat Adamek for the WBC strap. I honestly don't see the big difference in cometition as well. Both fought good opposition.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by warp1432
                      Mijares KOd Kawashima who was a very good fighter. Tough test for anyone in that division. Mijares has better defense and is a southpaw. Maldonado had some effect when he switched to it against Donaire. Mijares also has excellent footspeed, great counter punching (if not better), and is slicker.

                      For having one punch KO power it sure took him a lot of shots to KO Maldonado.
                      Mijares is known for his jab also.. Look at how Donaire respond very quickly when countering with his lefthook and righthook when his opponents are jabbing him.. Donaire is tall dude 5'6 same as Mijares.. And yeah Maldonado got knockdown from a counter left hook.. Donaire is a technical fighter who knows when to engage at the right time.. Montiel is understandable because he is a brawler and goes for the finishing touch quickly.. As I said style makes fight, Fighters like Arce and Montiel that are face first brawler will have a long night against Mijares or Donaire..

                      I just hope Donaire finish his promotional problem with Shaw and signs with Top Rank or Golden Boy so he can proceed to 115... Everyone at 112 is ducking him already...

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