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  • LOLORSKATES
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    #31
    Originally posted by Bobby Lee
    it's not really just pacquiao. he wanted to fight joan guzman but maybe the ppv sales wont be that good since guzman's performance with sotto was a bore. nobody wants a hyped up fight like maweathers then the action is dead.

    there are other fighters who doesn't want to be with guzman because everyone is chasing the big fight and that is again pacquiao. valero denied the fight so did marquez. while nate campbell is chasing a bigger prize than guzman.

    i dont see his career going to top.
    Are you that Bobby Lee comedian from MadTV?

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    • Sin City
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      #32
      Originally posted by FN P90
      i have been reading news about joan guzman and this guy trash talks alot. i dont know if the reporters are responsible for it or if he is really that frustrated that's why he is putting on a mayweather stunt. ok this guy is the champion but howcome he's never been in a big fight. the last fight that i saw him was with sotto. yeah sotto can't do **** because guzman was circling around the ring. the way guzman fought was like a copycat of mayweather's which fans nowadays doesn't want. he says he's been ducked by a lot of fighters. but is it really because he is good or is it because his style bore his opponents? now he gave up his 130 belt and is moving to 135 yet no fights. i dont know what his career will be but as of right now he is still a nobody.
      Everyone was saying Soto would whoop his ass after Barrios. IMO that proved that he deserves the right to a big fight. A lot of people forget that he was coming of a year lay off with the Soto fight and he didn't really run the whole fight.. Really that's not Guzman's style. If you have watch his previous fights you would know this. Anyway, Guzman's career is a victim of misfortune.. not being able to get fights, hand injuries and just bull**** like not being able to get a visa to fight Arthur. He will get his chance though, hopefully soon.

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      • Dorian
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        #33
        I'm getting worried about him not staying active, he doesn't have a fight schedueled

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          #34
          Originally posted by Erbad
          What's the point if he's moving up in weight without a reputation to precede him? What he needs to do is stay in a division long enough to fight a significant opponent, beat that guy, then start calling everyone out.
          And what segnificant opponent is there now that everyone has left?

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          • Scott9945
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            #35
            Originally posted by DIOS DOMINICANO
            Because Arum is effin' scared to put Pacquiao in with him.

            He'd be a lot less scared if he thought the fight would make a lot of money.

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            • Sin City
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              #36
              Originally posted by Dorian
              I'm getting worried about him not staying active, he doesn't have a fight schedueled
              He fought Soto on a year lay off... I'm not that worried because if he can shut Soto out even with the inactivity.

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              • LOLORSKATES
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                #37
                Originally posted by Devious.
                And what segnificant opponent is there now that everyone has left?
                Here's a concept: Boxing is about more than getting one big payday. Sure, it was disheartening how Arthur stalled Guzman for a meaningless fight. Guzman had momentum going for him at 130, he could have established himself as a dominant champion there.

                Why do I say that? Because Guzman ditching belts and moving up in weight doesn't do much for him when he's a general unknown without plausible marketability doesn't=Superfights.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Erbad
                  Here's a concept: Boxing is about more than getting one big payday. Sure, it was disheartening how Arthur stalled Guzman for a meaningless fight. Guzman had momentum going for him at 130, he could have established himself as a dominant champion there.

                  Why do I say that? Because Guzman ditching belts and moving up in weight doesn't do much for him when he's a general unknown without plausible marketability doesn't=Superfights.
                  He already fought Barrios and Soto who are ranked top 10 in the division..
                  If those aren't significant wins I dunno what are..

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                  • LOLORSKATES
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Devious.
                    He already fought Barrios and Soto who are ranked top 10 in the division..
                    If those aren't significant wins I dunno what are..
                    They were good quality wins, but at that moment Guzman hadn't yet separated himself from the other champions in the division. I see him as more of a Pernell Whitaker type and for Guzman to get the respect he deserves he needs to stay in one place long enough to unify.

                    Unless he starts sitting down and turning over some power punches on these bigger guys he isn't going to get big money fights.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Erbad
                      What's the point if he's moving up in weight without a reputation to precede him? What he needs to do is stay in a division long enough to fight a significant opponent, beat that guy, then start calling everyone out.
                      I don't necessarily disagree w/you, I'm saying that's what he's doing. At 130 though I think he made the right decision to go up. There simply isn't anyone worthy of fighting.

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