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  • MakeDamnSure
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    #11
    Pacquiao wants to fight Guzman and the deal was actually close of being done.. But after the Soto-Guzman fight, Arum reject Guzman because it will be a borefest fight.. All I know Pac wants to fight him after the Solis bout..

    The only person I know that verbally ducked Guzman was Juan Manuel Marquez.. When Golden Boy put Guzman to replace Barrios to face Marquez last year, Marquez said HELL NO we fight Guzman! We want Rocky Juarez

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      #12
      Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
      Pacquiao wants to fight Guzman and the deal was actually close of being done.. But after the Soto-Guzman fight, Arum reject Guzman because it will be a borefest fight.. All I know Pac wants to fight him after the Solis bout..

      The only person I know that verbally ducked Guzman was Juan Manuel Marquez.. When Golden Boy put Guzman to replace Barrios to face Marquez last year, Marquez said HELL NO we fight Guzman! We want Rocky Juarez
      Yep, I agree with all this. I think pacman wants to fight the best, Arum just didn't see the $$$ signs.

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        #13
        Originally posted by natas206
        Nah, I paid very close attention to what was going on against Arthur/Warren and there was no reason whatsoever for the fight to be cancelled. Guzman was ready and they left him waiting without a word for two weeks and Guzman is stuck extending his training and staying at 130. So he said **** it and left. And why blame him? Who the hell is left in the division? Not a single name worth fighting after Marquez and Pacman went up.

        And Guzman hasn't canceled a fight due to weight. You have it wrong.
        even a possible fight with valero but valero said he doesnt want to fight guzman, ever.

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          #14
          It was supposed to be in Vancouver, BC, I remember because I was planning on going since it's only a few hour drive from Seattle:

          Pacquiao keen on Guzman bout


          05/13/2007


          GEN. SANTOS CITY, Philippines—A fight against Joan Guzman sounds right for Manny Pacquiao. But the unbeaten fighter from the Dominican Republic has to wait until October before getting a crack against the Filipino ring icon.

          “He (Guzman) is okay with me,” said Pacquiao in Filipino yesterday at his P38-million mansion here. “That would be a good fight.”

          Top Rank top honcho Bob Arum, who is here to provide moral support for Pacquiao’s congressional bid, had earlier named Guzman as the No. 1 prospect among Pacquiao’s possible opponents.

          Pacquiao, however, feels he will need at least three months’ rest after the elections before plunging back into training.

          “I’ll be ready by October,” he said. “September is too close.”

          Pacquiao, sun-tanned and leaner due to the rigors of the political campaign, said the New York City-based Guzman should provide him stiffer competition than Mexican Jorge Solis, whom he stopped in eight rounds in San Antonio, Texas, on April 14.

          “Si Solis di ko pa sinusuntok di na alam kung saan tatakbo (Solis didn’t know where to run even before I hit him),” said Pacquiao, now sporting a goatee to go with his beard.

          The 31-year-old Guzman, who has decked 17 of his 26 fight victims, holds the WBO super featherweight crown.

          If negotiations push through, the Pacquiao-Guzman fight is likely to be staged in Vancouver, according to Arum who cited the presence of about 150,000 Filipinos in the area.


          Also on Arum’s list are unbeaten Venezuelan Erwin Valero, Mexican future Hall of Famer Marco Antonio Barrera and Mexican Humberto Soto.

          WBC super featherweight titlist Juan Manuel Marquez is only fifth on the list. He is said to be asking a big purse that Arum deemed is not feasible, considering that the Mexican has “no fan base.”

          Pacquiao said he is also willing to face any of the three, but stressed that Soto needs to get past his younger brother Bobby first on June 9 in New York.

          Pacquiao said he will be watching Bobby’s fight as he is slated to be honored as the world’s best fighter by the Boxing Writers Association of America on June 8.

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          • warp1432
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            #15
            I'm kinda mad that he left 130. All of a sudden 130 except for Valero, but who knows he might move up, became a **** division.

            You have Barrios, Juarez (maybe), Valero, and Soto at 130. When you lose guys like Pac, Marquez, Guzman, Barrera, and Morales (All these guys were in the same divsion 2 years ago. Pac, Marquez, and Guzman are now) your division takes a major hit.

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              #16
              Originally posted by natas206
              Nah, I paid very close attention to what was going on against Arthur/Warren and there was no reason whatsoever for the fight to be cancelled. Guzman was ready and they left him waiting without a word for two weeks and Guzman is stuck extending his training and staying at 130. So he said **** it and left. And why blame him? Who the hell is left in the division? Not a single name worth fighting after Marquez and Pacman went up.

              And Guzman hasn't canceled a fight due to weight. You have it wrong.
              ** OK, you live in a parallel universe.

              In my universe Guzman claimed he couldn't get a visa in time. He got a visa in plenty of time to make the contracted date, something like 9 hrs later, and then announced he was waiting for the reschedule. Then something like a week later he announces he's moving up to the lightweight division.

              You should go back to your universe and not bother us here with your nonsense. Guzman is fat and he's gonna outgrow the lightweight division before you can get Scotty to beam you back to this universe for more nonsense.

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                #17
                Originally posted by LondonRingRules
                ** OK, you live in a parallel universe.

                In my universe Guzman claimed he couldn't get a visa in time. He got a visa in plenty of time to make the contracted date, something like 9 hrs later, and then announced he was waiting for the reschedule. Then something like a week later he announces he's moving up to the lightweight division.

                You should go back to your universe and not bother us here with your nonsense. Guzman is fat and he's gonna outgrow the lightweight division before you can get Scotty to beam you back to this universe for more nonsense.
                His mother got a tumor...he vacated it so he could spend time with her.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by LondonRingRules
                  ** OK, you live in a parallel universe.

                  In my universe Guzman claimed he couldn't get a visa in time.
                  Actually Guzman never announced he couldn't get the visa in time. On Warrens website, there was an article that said Arthur suffered in injury during training. One hour later, the article was pulled and was replaced with an article stating Guzman was having visa problems and that fight would need to be rescheduled. The very next day (or later that day), Guzman publicly announced that there was no issue. There was a slight hold up and that he still was going to arrive in Scottland on time, 10+ days prior to May 3rd, the day of the fight. There were no problems. He then was left to wait, over 10 days, without a word of when the new date would be.

                  4-23-2008
                  A WBO spokeswoman told ITV that Guzman has encountered problems in obtaining a visa to travel to Scotland. At the present, the fight appears to heading to a later date.

                  04-24-2008

                  Joan Guzman Clears Up Visa Issues
                  World Boxing Organization (WBO) Junior Lightweight Champion Joan Guzman (28-0, 17 KOs) has obtained a visa that will allow him to travel to Scotland to defend his title against interim champion and Scotland-native Alex Arthur.
                  “This was the last hurdle that we needed to clear before we could make our title defense,” Guzman said.
                  04-29-2008
                  World Boxing Organization (WBO) Junior Lightweight Champion Joan Guzman doesn’t believe Scotland-native Alex Arthur, the interim champion, has the heart or desire to fight him for the full version of the title..

                  I don’t understand what the hold up is,” said Guzman, who is promoted by San Diego-based Sycuan Ringside Promotions. “Forget everything you’ve heard or read from Arthur and his promoter about me having visa problems. It’s all a smoke screen.

                  “The truth is, I received my visa on April 24 and was ready to travel to Scotland the next day. I was packed and ready to go. I was excited.

                  “I could have easily fought him on the original date (May 3). I don’t know why the fight needed a new date other than the fact that Arthur is flat-out scared of me. He was looking for an excuse to postpone this fight because he knew he was going to get destroyed and embarrassed in front of his hometown fans.

                  “This only makes me angrier. I want to get my fists on him now more than ever before. This guy is in for a real beating. He’s going to get scotch-taped like you wouldn’t believe.”

                  Guzman was scheduled to defend his WBO 130 pound title this Saturday, May 3, in Edinburgh, Scotland. He received his visa a little later than expected, but he feels he got it in plenty of time for the fight to happen.

                  The visa issue wasn’t even a big deal,” Guzman said. “All the paperwork was in order. I’m convinced Arthur is afraid of me. If he really wanted the fight he would tell his promoter to get us a new, immediate date. It has been nearly a week and we haven’t heard a thing

                  05-02-2008

                  "Here we go again," says Jose Nunez, manager of undefeated junior lightweight titlist Joan Guzman. "I've dealt with Warren too often to know that something's not right."

                  The latest shenanigans involved what was supposed to be Guzman's title defense against mandatory challenger Alex Arthur this weekend in Scotland. The bout was postponed after a brief Visa issue on Guzman's end caused mass hysteria on Warren's end, leading the promoter to call the WBO to inform them that the bout will need to be rescheduled.

                  Rumors ran rampant on both sides of the pond, chief among them the insistence that it was Guzman's camp that called for the postponement for fear that the fighter's visa issues would not be cleared in time.

                  Team Guzman believes such a rumor to be just that – a rumor.

                  "There was never a delay, nor did we ever tell anyone there would be a delay," insists Nunez. "Guzman was supposed to receive his Visa in time to travel to Scotland on April 24, giving him nine days in country prior to fight night.

                  "The immigration lawyer informed me that he would have his Visa the day he was supposed to leave. The only issue was that it arrived later than the scheduled flight. We expected to catch a later flight, as it's no big deal to change travel plans like that. That's all that had to be done in order to keep the date. Instead, we're already reading about the fight being postponed."

                  The first alert came on the website of Setanta Sports, who was to air the bout. An announcement was made that the bout would be postponed for a date to be determined.

                  But it's what was said in the original announcement that leads Team Guzman to believe that they're being played.

                  "The crazy thing is, the Setanta website ran an article stating Arthur was injured, only for the article to be pulled a few hours later, and replaced with a story about Guzman's alleged Visa issues being the "real" reason.

                  "What I think is that Arthur really got injured, and that he really doesn't want to fight Guzman in May – if at all."


                  It won't be the first time that it was hinted of possible plans for Arthur to fight for the WBO junior lightweight title without actually having to face Guzman. Rumors swirled overseas late last year of Guzman's alleged plans to vacate the title and move up to lightweight. Nunez and Guzman immediately refuted the claims, clearly stating that if Arthur were to challenge for the title, he'll have to face its present claimant.

                  That stance remains true today.

                  "They can try whatever they want. We're taking matters into our own hands, making sure that the WBO isn't being dictated to by Warren, which seems to be the case."

                  What has yet to happen is Nunez or any member of Guzman's camp receiving formal notification that the fight won't happen in May.

                  "There have been rumors on different sites, but nobody has directly told us June. What the WBO told is that it won't be delayed past the month of May. We've BEEN ready to fight, we're ready to fight Saturday to be honest. We don't want to have to wait any longer than necessary. If Arthur is healthy, I'm sure he wouldn't want to wait any longer, either."

                  In efforts to receive a direct answer, Nunez contacted WBO President Francisco "Paco" Valcarcel via e-mail earlier Wednesday afternoon, asking for an explanation as well as an update regarding the forced delay in his fighter's career.

                  The e-mail, posted verbatim, reads as follows:

                  Mr. Valcarcel:

                  I am not clear as to why the Guzman vs. Arthur bout was postponed. Guzman received his visa the same day that we were supposed to leave and he was ready to go straight to the UK.

                  It was completely unjust for the bout to be cancelled without notifying us. We were ready to go to the UK at the minimum 9 days before the fight.

                  On the website for the television network that was going to televise the fight, there was an article posted stating that Arthur had incurred an injury and then a few hours later it was taken down.

                  We then received notice of the cancellation due to Guzman not having his visa; this seems very su****ious.

                  Please look into this and try to make sure that the postponement does not go beyond May. Guzman has been training hard for over two months and he is more than ready to proudly represent your organization in a title defense against Alex Arthur.

                  Jose Nunez

                  In hoping for the best, Team Guzman anticipates the matter being resolved swiftly and to their liking. Such an outcome would have Joan defending anytime within the next four weeks, be it against Arthur or, in the event the Scot is not ready, an interim defense for the sake of keeping the Dominican active.

                  "We're hoping that Paco will let us take an interim fight if (Arthur) is not ready to fight at the end of May. If not, we'll look for another opponent, possibly the next kid in line in the rankings (Roman Martinez). If Arthur is injured, or really doesn't want the fight, then at least let us resume our career."

                  The sad part is, none of this had to come about.

                  "Sean Gibbons (matchmaker for Sycuan Ringside Promotions, who promoted Guzman) asked Warren for a letter of invitation to help expedite matters," says Nunez. "We could've had this done at the Calzaghe-Hopkins fight; Warren's lawyer was in the states at the fight and could've approved it to allow everything to get going."

                  Instead, the other side blinked.

                  "We ask Warren this, no response on Friday. Then on the Monday after Calzaghe-Hopkins, he tells the WBO that there are visa issues and that the fight is delayed. The WBO never intended to postpone the fight until Warren panicked."

                  For Team Guzman, it's history repeating itself all over again. It was over two years ago that Guzman was to face another Scot, then-WBO featherweight titlist Scott Harrison.



                  "We requested of the WBO to give us a new date, but keep the fight in May. If Arthur isn't ready, then let us move on. And that goes both ways. God forbid we get injured, I wouldn't want to hold up Arthur, respecting all of the hard work he put into his training camp.

                  "The bottom line is, we don't want any more time to pass than necessary."

                  "What bothers me the most is, I never received formal notification of the fight being cancelled. We had the Visa 10 days before the fight; that's not grounds to postpone the fight."



                  05-14-08
                  BoxingScene.com has just been informed that undefeated junior lightweight Joan Guzman is set to vacate his WBO title in order to campaign in the lightweight division.
                  Last edited by ИATAS; 05-30-2008, 11:30 PM.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by natas206
                    It was supposed to be in Vancouver, BC, I remember because I was planning on going since it's only a few hour drive from Seattle:

                    Pacquiao keen on Guzman bout


                    05/13/2007


                    GEN. SANTOS CITY, Philippines—A fight against Joan Guzman sounds right for Manny Pacquiao. But the unbeaten fighter from the Dominican Republic has to wait until October before getting a crack against the Filipino ring icon.

                    “He (Guzman) is okay with me,” said Pacquiao in Filipino yesterday at his P38-million mansion here. “That would be a good fight.”

                    Top Rank top honcho Bob Arum, who is here to provide moral support for Pacquiao’s congressional bid, had earlier named Guzman as the No. 1 prospect among Pacquiao’s possible opponents.

                    Pacquiao, however, feels he will need at least three months’ rest after the elections before plunging back into training.

                    “I’ll be ready by October,” he said. “September is too close.”

                    Pacquiao, sun-tanned and leaner due to the rigors of the political campaign, said the New York City-based Guzman should provide him stiffer competition than Mexican Jorge Solis, whom he stopped in eight rounds in San Antonio, Texas, on April 14.

                    “Si Solis di ko pa sinusuntok di na alam kung saan tatakbo (Solis didn’t know where to run even before I hit him),” said Pacquiao, now sporting a goatee to go with his beard.

                    The 31-year-old Guzman, who has decked 17 of his 26 fight victims, holds the WBO super featherweight crown.

                    If negotiations push through, the Pacquiao-Guzman fight is likely to be staged in Vancouver, according to Arum who cited the presence of about 150,000 Filipinos in the area.


                    Also on Arum’s list are unbeaten Venezuelan Erwin Valero, Mexican future Hall of Famer Marco Antonio Barrera and Mexican Humberto Soto.

                    WBC super featherweight titlist Juan Manuel Marquez is only fifth on the list. He is said to be asking a big purse that Arum deemed is not feasible, considering that the Mexican has “no fan base.”

                    Pacquiao said he is also willing to face any of the three, but stressed that Soto needs to get past his younger brother Bobby first on June 9 in New York.

                    Pacquiao said he will be watching Bobby’s fight as he is slated to be honored as the world’s best fighter by the Boxing Writers Association of America on June 8.
                    Juan Manuel Marquez Rejects Joan Guzman, OKs Rocky Juarez As Sept. 15 Foe!


                    This ****************** story, sure to be copied by other sites within the next 24 hours (remember where you deaf people heard it first, lol), is a sad one for our roving reporter John Chavez. It might make the San Franciscan weep right into his soba noodles and fried tofu.
                    It won’t be longshot Edwin Valero in the opposite corner against WBC 130-pound champion Juan Manuel Marquez Sept. 15 in Golden Boy’s big Vegas PPV main event.

                    As revealed exclusively on ******************.com Saturday night, at 11:47 pm and 45 seconds, challenger Jorge “La Hienna” was scatched as Marquez’s opponent for medical reasons, perhaps an eye problem or just an iniability to slim down to the super featherweight limt.

                    Valero, the unbeaten WBA champ, has his own medical licensing problems which is why he is campaigning under the Teiken promotional banner in Japan.

                    Marquez’s substitute foe is going to be Rocky Juarez. That’s the new situation and Juarez was locked in only after the Marquez handlers adamantly refused to fight undefeated WBO champ Joan Guzman. Manager Jose Nunez pushed hard for the Marquez unification bout but the Marquez camp said no, no no and hell no.

                    So Guzman and Mexican hardman Humberto Soto will collide on Nov. 17.

                    Indonesia's Chris John, a complete unknown in America, never got a mention as a substitute for the Argentine tough guy Barrios.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MakeDamnSure
                      Juan Manuel Marquez Rejects Joan Guzman, OKs Rocky Juarez As Sept. 15 Foe!


                      This ****************** story, sure to be copied by other sites within the next 24 hours (remember where you deaf people heard it first, lol), is a sad one for our roving reporter John Chavez. It might make the San Franciscan weep right into his soba noodles and fried tofu.
                      It won’t be longshot Edwin Valero in the opposite corner against WBC 130-pound champion Juan Manuel Marquez Sept. 15 in Golden Boy’s big Vegas PPV main event.

                      As revealed exclusively on ******************.com Saturday night, at 11:47 pm and 45 seconds, challenger Jorge “La Hienna” was scatched as Marquez’s opponent for medical reasons, perhaps an eye problem or just an iniability to slim down to the super featherweight limt.

                      Valero, the unbeaten WBA champ, has his own medical licensing problems which is why he is campaigning under the Teiken promotional banner in Japan.

                      Marquez’s substitute foe is going to be Rocky Juarez. That’s the new situation and Juarez was locked in only after the Marquez handlers adamantly refused to fight undefeated WBO champ Joan Guzman. Manager Jose Nunez pushed hard for the Marquez unification bout but the Marquez camp said no, no no and hell no.

                      So Guzman and Mexican hardman Humberto Soto will collide on Nov. 17.

                      Indonesia's Chris John, a complete unknown in America, never got a mention as a substitute for the Argentine tough guy Barrios.
                      thanks for posting this

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