Miguel Cotto VS Floyd Mayweather: The Whole Story

[Boofdatruth]

Dont expect too many replys from Floydboyz. They will avoid this thread in hopes that it fades into obscurity. They want it off of the first page asap!

i welcome threads like this...........it gives me a chance to ask cotto fans what top 10 pfp fighter has coto faced..........we know floyd has faced a few.........i also want to know why you cotto fans think floyd is ducking cotto.......you have a better argument saying floyd ducked margs.........lol....and that isn't close to even being the truth......

[bsrizpac]

You were trying to compare Cotto's last fight to that of Floyd's, when in reality, Cotto's fight held no signifigance in the boxing world. I dont know not one person who actually gives Cotto a pat on the back for fighting Gomez.

You just compared Gomez to Floyd getting money for basically an athletic entertainment appearance "vs. the Big Show". That's like saying well, Cotto may have fought Gomez, but Floyd is a ***** cause he lost on dancing with the stars.

[COACH WEBB]

You just compared Gomez to Floyd getting money for basically an athletic entertainment appearance "vs. the Big Show". That's like saying well, Cotto may have fought Gomez, but Floyd is a ***** cause he lost on dancing with the stars.

it ain't looking good for dee, this is how he is looking right now...

[Boofdatruth]

You were trying to compare Cotto's last fight to that of Floyd's, when in reality, Cotto's fight held no signifigance in the boxing world. I dont know not one person who actually gives Cotto a pat on the back for fighting Gomez.

yeah, but did you contradict yourself.......???.........anyway, why would you criticize and threaten to write a letter when the gomez fight was a good fight to take.......to keep sharp...?.......chavez did this...........floyd did this when he fought emmanuel augustus before fighting chico...........every cotto fight isn't going to be against a great opponent.........no fighter fights great opponents in every last one of their fights when they get to the top......over the weight fights..........tune-ups......are a part of boxing.......

[deevel79]

You just compared Gomez to Floyd getting money for basically an athletic entertainment appearance "vs. the Big Show". That's like saying well, Cotto may have fought Gomez, but Floyd is a ***** cause he lost on dancing with the stars.

I'll make this as simple as possible for the illiterate like you. A poster was trying to bash Cotto and big up Floyd by comparing both of thier last fights. Im only pointing out that it is an unfair comparison, being that Cotto's fight against Gomez was only a "stay busy" fight while he awaited the winner of Cintron/Margarito. I was never happy with Arum's and HBO's decsion to approve such a fight, and i never once made it out to be anything of signifigance. Why dont u point out how Cotto is now scheduled to fight someone that Floyd publically ducked, while Floyd is looking for second servings of Oscar and Hatton.

[deevel79]

yeah, but did you contradict yourself.......???.........anyway, why would you criticize and threaten to write a letter when the gomez fight was a good fight to take.......to keep sharp...?.......chavez did this...........floyd did this when he fought emmanuel augustus before fighting chico...........every cotto fight isn't going to be against a great opponent.........no fighter fights great opponents in every last one of their fights when they get to the top......over the weight fights..........tune-ups......are a part of boxing.......

Because unlike you, i prefer to see my favorite fighters pushed to the limit in order to prove themselves. I dont care if Cotto loses, as long as he does so fighting the best ala Duran, SRL, etc....

[BMWM3P]

LOL...Its just funny how you make a thread about how unhappy you were about the fight, then after all this time when both Floyd AND Cotto are being discussed and you now FINE with Cotto's last fight. You are inconsistent dee. How could you even talk about Cotto's last fight in this thread when you YOURSELF disapprovED of it????? What happened to make you ok with Cotto-Gomez?

Cotto-Gomez was made because a certain ***** failed to show up. Cotto-Mayweather was supposed to happen after Floyd beat Hatton and Cotto beat Mosley. They both won, but Floyd quickly said he wasn't going to fight that he was semi retired and bitched out on the fight. What's Cotto supposed to do wait for him, instead of pretend fighting like a *****, he chose to stay busy and fight.

[deevel79]

Cotto-Gomez was made because a certain ***** failed to show up. Cotto-Mayweather was supposed to happen after Floyd beat Hatton and Cotto beat Mosley. They both won, but Floyd quickly said he wasn't going to fight that he was semi retired and bitched out on the fight. What's Cotto supposed to do wait for him, instead of pretend fighting like a *****, he chose to stay busy and fight.

Even more ***** how Floyd stated that he will fight Shane if Shane won, but he wont fight Cotto if Cotto happened to win. Should i post the link?

[Pullcounter]

Mayweather & Team Mayweather:
-Mayweather made $20 million dollars for his May battle with Oscar De La Hoya, and Ellerbe told The Ledger that Cotto is not at that stage of the game. Even though Madison Square Garden was sold out with 20,600 fans, he says the popularity of the event was based on the location, and not the overall market value of the fighters involved. In his opinion, Cotto needs to go out and fight a higher level of opponents and make himself popular in other areas of the country before knocking on Mayweather's door.

- "They fought Zab after he just got beat by Floyd, then he's suspended for a whole year and you can't count that little fight Zab had in April because it didn't even go a round. Zab didn't have a chance to get any work in. They caught Zab at the right time."

- Mayweather said. “Me being a true champion, I think I'm going to retire undefeated. But if I do go out, I'm going out on my back. That's how a true champion's got to go out."

- “Cotto needs a couple more tune-ups. Right now he’s a little too green,” Mayweather said.

- Roger Mayweather said he considers Tszyu the true champion, but thinks Cotto actually would be his nephew’s most difficult fight at 140 pounds.

- Mayweather said. “I don't look at anybody as a pushover. How do guys get known? They come in and upset top guys. I'm not letting some guy come in and upset me."

- “Miguel Cotto is a punching bag…and Miguel Cotto knows he can’t beat me.”



Cotto & Team Cotto:
-"That's the thing he does for his entire career. He run from the really good boxer kind, he choose the others. I don't know how the people who know about boxing put him in the first place in the pound-for-pound champion."

-Cotto says he sees vulnerablilities in Mayweather which he knows how to exploit. "He's quick. He's fast. But when you put pressure on him he closes his mind."

-"The fans, the company, my staff are great," the 27-year-old Cotto said. "I am ready for anyone."

-"I'll fight any big names: Oscar, Mayweather, Hatton, anyone top-ranked, whatever the company tells me," Cotto said after his 31st straight win. "I'm ready for the big names. No excuses. What the company wants me to do."

-"He always runs from me, makes excuses on why he shouldn’t fight Miguel Cotto. I'm here for the big names. If he doesn't want to fight me than I can do something else."

-"To beat Maywetaher, you have to put pressure on him, cut off the ring and be ready to throw a lot of punches, real punches - for all twelve rounds"

-"I never choose opponents. They always make the correct fights for me. I'm going to leave these things in their hands"

-"We’re rivals,” Cotto said. “Mayweather is a star of the sport and we’re in the same company. Mayweather was a great champion at 130 and 135. We don’t know about 140. When the company says the time is right to make the fight, I’ll fight him. I think it's a good fight. I know Mayweather's a great fighter. But I know I can beat him."

Reporter: Do you think Mayweather actually is afraid of you?
Cotto: I don't know what kind of reason he has for choosing another fighter. If you want to be the best you have to fight the best.
Reporter: You actually believe you will beat Floyd don't you?
Cotto: I'm pretty sure of that, because of my training. Because of my - I trust a lot in myself. And I'm always do more than 100% in my training sessions.

-Cotto says he sees vulnerablilities in Mayweather which he knows how to exploit. "He's quick. He's fast. But when you put pressure on him he closes his mind."

-Cotto said he doesn't need Mayweather, and he can't make Mayweather fight him because "I'm not a promoter."

-"I can't fight a guy who doesn't want to face me," Cotto said.



The Media:
-We may never see Floyd vs. Cotto - the fight absolutely everyone wants to watch, with the exception of Floyd Mayweather.

-Miguel Cotto has brought that question into sharp focus. That's because, unlike Mayweather, Cotto is not a celebrity boxer. He is the craftsman who is only interested in perfecting his trade in a specific arena -- the boxing ring.

-Emanuel Steward, who pulled double duty on Saturday night working the corner of Kermit Cintron in his title match against Antonio Margarito and then working the HBO broadcast for the Cotto-Gomez fight, believes Mayweather should not be included in the welterweight mix. "He's a money fighter," Steward said. "He doesn't fight anybody."

-Mayweather-De La Hoya is viewed as nothing more than a money grab. Cotto-Margarito is seen as a ring war.

-Mayweather’s absolute silence about Cotto since the Gomez victory should be construed as further evidence that Mayweather would prefer to ignore Cotto than ever fight him. And that Floyd was being dishonest when he told us Cotto is just a punching bag and that Cotto knows he can’t beat Mayweather. So therefore the truth in Floyd’s heart of hearts is probably something more like, “Cotto is the best welterweight in the world today and I’m gonna keep my big mouth shut now because I don’t want to fuel his fire any more or fuel any talks of us ever fighting each other because I could never hold him off for 12 rounds. And hopefully Cotto will lose to Antonio Margarito and I will never ever have to fight that fearless relentless beast.” We’ll be on the lookout for the missing person Mayweather. Maybe he’s been having recurring nightmares about Cotto. Maybe he’s getting professional help to come to terms to deal with his fears. Or Bob Arum was right. Maybe Floyd did buy a ticket for a flight to Mars after seeing how violently impressive Cotto and Margarito were on April 12.


Boxers:
-"He's a tough guy to hit, he's a really strong boxer." - Shane Mosley

of course all hardcore fans want to see floyd/cotto, but it ain't happening until cotto breaks into the bigger market of casual boxing fans.

What Cotto needs to do is start demolishing every welterweight out there to get the attention he wants. Cotto needed to destroy Mosley, but he ran in the last couple of rounds and got the decision... I think ultimately that hurt Cotto's box office appeal (not his appeal with Puerto Ricans though).

Cotto needs to destroy Margarito, and if he can't get a fight with Floyd he needs to destroy Williams, Clottey, and any other contenders at 147 and if he still can't get floyd he needs to start destroying 154 lbers.

That said, I don't think Cotto will destroy Margarito, but clearly outbox and outpoint Margarito. I'd be surprised if Cotto went toe to toe with Margarito, and if he did that's probably 2-4 years off Cotto's shelf life.

But Cotto needs some Vasquez/Marquez type epic wars to elevate his name among casual fans.

[bsrizpac]

I'll make this as simple as possible for the illiterate like you. A poster was trying to bash Cotto and big up Floyd by comparing both of thier last fights. Im only pointing out that it is an unfair comparison, being that Cotto's fight against Gomez was only a "stay busy" fight while he awaited the winner of Cintron/Margarito. I was never happy with Arum's and HBO's decsion to approve such a fight, and i never once made it out to be anything of signifigance. Why dont u point out how Cotto is now scheduled to fight someone that Floyd publically ducked, while Floyd is looking for second servings of Oscar and Hatton.

I like how you ignored my previous post. Oh yes, you are so smart. I'm humbled by your superior grasp of diction and wordplay. Tool.

It's not an unfair comparison only because of this: You bash Floyd constantly. Then cry about "unfair comparisons" when Floyd chooses a path of waiting people out until they are big enough names, while your fighters 'stay busy' fighting scrubs. I know this is gonna go over your head, because your entire boxing existence is predicated to jerking off to the wall poster of Floyd with a big X drawn on it you have, but try to think rationally for a moment.

Here's a real question for you, If and when Cotto gets a fight with Mayweather: will you retract everything you've been saying about "ducking" and "coward" and all the other spam you've posted? My guess: doubtful.