Why are people downgrading Calzaghes win over Bernard Hopkins so much?

[javelin_fangs]

Au contraire. I could give a **** if Calzaghe is a 'legend' or any of that nonsense. I never even thought about if before I came to this forum and had my mind polluted. Calzaghe is two weight Ring Champion and a top P4P guy right now and thats all that matters really. Everything else is just hype and bickering.

So you won't get a vociferous argument from me either. Peace.

I mean I get you.

I'm saying though, if we can't have a debate on here about who is or who might be an all-time great fighter then where do we have the debate?

[daggum]

ring magazine has joel casayamor as their champ at 135. joke joke joke joke. its just another meaningless belt for ****** fans to claim their fighter has.

[abadger]

I mean I get you.

I'm saying though, if we can't have a debate on here about who is or who might be an all-time great fighter then where do we have the debate?

Well we can, but not right now my friend. I have had enough!

[MWMerlino]

People don't give Joe credit for his win because he had to pitty patter to beat Hopkins who was making the fight incredibly slow and boring. Joe just outworked the old man. The old man that pretended to be hurt from supposed low blows because he needed the rest.

[warp1432]

i just wish people were consistent. i know that sounds crazy coming from me but i have no problem saying floyd is the best i've ever seen live (not live as in in person but in real time, during my era) regardless of some things i dont agree with.

if we were to look at the Calz vs. Hop polls, im sure we can find that some of the posters who voted for Hop to win and are the same posters not givin Joe his due credit. Sooo if Hop was old, washed up and senile now, why the **** would you vote for a fighter who can be found early sunday mornings at Luby's using his senior citizen discount to beat another world class p4p ranked fighter?

because you believed your own hype and now you look like a fool.

Same thing goes for Joe fans. Apperently Bernard was **** all along, an old man that had no chance, overrated, etc etc.

Then when Joe beats him, Bernard is a great fighter again according to them. Who knew?