Roy Jones Jr vs. Joe Calzaghe: One and Done For Joe

[CraigM]

I think the huge payday that a U.S. audience/fight generates just might offset the cost of living in the U.S. for a month. But what do I know, I have no business sense.

Fair enough, but what if you can get that money a lot more regularily in the country you live in.

I actually wish he did fight abroad more often, but it's a lot nicer to goto a fight for $600 instead of $1800, cheaper on my bank balance anyway

[Mizzou]

Fair enough, but what if you can get that money a lot more regularily in the country you live in.

I actually wish he did fight abroad more often, but it's a lot nicer to goto a fight for $600 instead of $1800, cheaper on my bank balance anyway

Yes but I would guess our bank balances our much different than a Joe Calzaghe or any other prize fighters. I'm sure they also don't have to pay out of pocket for their living expenses, which are probably covered by the promoter or some rich person wanting to rub shoulders with the more famous types. If Ricky Hatton never came to fight PBF, he would not be on American TV tomorrow. He gained a ****ton of fans and noteriety by coming over here. Why do you think his father is saying that tomorrow's fight is most likely his last in the UK. He openly said their is more money to be made in the US. If Ricky and Malignaggi both win, their fight will be in NY or Vegas, which are currently in a bidding war. The point is, America eat sleeps and ****s sports, that's how our culture is. We also have a large population and money to spend. Big name sports figures are treated like gods. Liivng expenses are small potatoes for any professional athlete.

[Kris Silver]

this is what you call playing it safe & ducking opponents. roy jones fans are crazy to think that a guy who lost his ko power & is far removed from his legend status can outdecision calzaghe in wales. regardless if joe wins they better not make excuses.

pavlik & tarver are the only real challenges to calzaghe

Don't arrogantly try to convey your own subjective views on others.

Your factually wrong. While many Americans are still pretty ignorant to Calzaghe, some under estimate him, some think he's over hyped and not the fighter that deserves to be top of the weight divisions. SOME PPL.

The fact is he is top of two weight divisions, and most in polls, put him above any other LHW or SMW. Deal with it, and stop making **** up, it makes your subjective posts even more flawed.

[BennyST]

Boxing will be a better place without Joe for real. An undefeated Super Middleweight with Laila Ali like power is not a good look for gaining fans for the sport, especially with all the competition with MMA nowadays. He also has virtually no personality. Don't get me wrong, I think he's a skilled boxer. But he's also one of the most dull fighters in years.

This coming from someone with Judah, Malignaggi, Dirrell, and Mayweather as their favourite fighters? You're kidding right? Since when have any of the guys you mentioned had any amount of power? You'll probably find Calzaghe has a higher KO% than all of those guys.

Not that I'm jumping on Calzaghe here. Just pointing out a big flaw in your perspective. Also, it sounds like you're confusing mindless ego with personality. Just because someone trash talks (all very badly mind you and with no personality) does not mean they are at all interesting or have a personality. I think upon knowing all of them Calzaghe would probably have more to say and be a better guy to hang with and have a beer than any of the above mentioned. Though I could be completely and utterly wrong.

When was the last time you saw Malignaggi KO someone? Come to think of it, you like Paul Williams right? One of your favourite fighters right? He is a tall, soft puncher that has great stamina and fights hard for all twelve rounds. Sounds like Calzaghe without one tenth of the boxing skill.

[1g5a22]

Jeremy Warriners First Words To Joe Calzaghe "welcome To My World Bro..."

Fight Amongst Yourselves......

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[pins0099]

It makes me laugh when Calzaghe fans think Roy will be easy work.

A former P4P great like Roy is NEVER going to be easy, I don't know which Calzaghe fans are supporting that ****. But you gotta admit Calzaghe has aged a lot better and his prime continued a lot later in life....because of this I'm sure he will beat Roy much more convincing than he did Hopkins; either way because of there styles we'll be in for a MUCH better fight.

[good_looking01]

You were somewhat on point until the last half of your statement. You dont think Calzaghe would beat him but beat him up? Calzaghe is a great fighter and I take nothing away from him. But in order to beat somebody up you must be able to hurt them. For the amount of punches he throws and lands its funny that with the acception of Jeff Lacy that none of his opponents physically look beaten up. Bernard Hopkins is a great fight and future HOF, and i give him a lot of credit for coming to the US "finally" to fight a marquee fighter. Props to him for that. However, he did beat up a 44yrs old man, who fights once a year, i give him credit for fighting b-hop first at light heavy weight, Honestly, "I give him more credit for that than actually beating B-hop". Roy had a cd out with the hit single "ya must of forgot" and that's where my point comes in. When i first read this thread i thought to myself that if this person is a "Hardcore" boxing fan
and he honestly feels that way he must live outside the United States and either doesnt know or never really actually saw Roy Jones (outside of his 2 knockout loses. Roy Jones is physically bigger than Calzaghe, as fast or maybe even faster than Calzaghe, hits harder than him and has way better defense, "even if his reflexes are not what they use to be." The only pluses i see 4 Calzaghe is his punch output. Which i guarantee wont be no where near the 80-100 punches per round, home field advantage(since the fight will be taking place in Wales) and maybe a better chin. When your fighting guys that you are faster than and your landing first it's easy to be aggressive. What makes me a little skeptical is that Bernard doesnt throw heavy punches (or even initiate offense) and he floored Joe in the 1st round with a right hand he just stuck out to stop him from coming forward, if you look at it he dipped to the left to block the incoming punch and in self defense stuck out his straight right and was dropped. Now Roy Jones, is a helluva of a lot faster than Bernard and hits harder. Unlike bernard who doesnt throw punches or try to force the issue, Roy is a lot of the opposite. He's going to be throwing punches at the same speed the Calzaghe will be. It's going to be hard for Joe to throw 80 punches while getting hit half of that time. Roy know for a fact that Calzaghe wont knock him out, If anything he thinks he could. This is a very dangerous fight for Calzaghe. I remember back in 98 or 99 when Calzaghe was basically willing to take peanuts for a fight with RJ when the entire world knew him, not just his fellow countrymen, the only catch he wanted it to take place in his hometown. Now at that time, how could anybody condemn RJ for refusing to go overseas and fight somebody that most of his fans didnt even know "Especially after what happen in the
Olympics"? Now the tides are a little reversed. RJ is not the fighter that 'PEOPLE think he use to be, and Calzaghe is top 3 pound for pound. Roy is setting Calzaghe up and he's falling for the bait. Calzaghe feels as if he needs this fight in order to cement his legacy and Roy jones is willing to fight him in order to resurrect his. He knows what he's doing and while it is very possible that Calzaghe can when this fight, it's going to be a whole different type of adversity that he's going to face. Give him credit for beating Bernard but even now I still dont think that Bernard is or was better than Roy Jones. And even though jones fought him 13 yrs ago it was a lot more convincing than what Joe did. If bernard was able to floor Calzaghe by just countering, it's hard to believe that a faster, stronger, offensively skilled fighter, cant do the same. Personally, i dont know who would win i know it would be entertaining but know way in hell is RJ getting "Beat UP' he might lose, but beating up by a guy who throws pity pat punches to the face and his hardest shot's are to the body i seriously doubt.

Good Post!!

RJJ will be a tough fight for Calzaghe. His style is not as awkward as Hopkins but still enough to give Calzaghe problems.

Roy has lost a lot of his power and stamina since coming down in weight. Admittedly he looked good against Tito (who like Bernard is unquestionably past his prime) and was fighting at a weight that he was never going to be comfortable at.

In the Tito fight Roy could really do what he wanted as Trinidad did not carry his power up in weight and also looked as if his conditioning wasn't great (not because he looked soft but he didn't pressure as much as i thought he would when he had Roy backing up). Roy will not have that luxury against Calzaghe.

The fight being in Wales (if that is confirmed) will be a big advantage to Joe as he seemed a little uncomfortable in the Hopkins build up, and will also generate a lot of money, (70,000+ attendance).

I don't think there is any doubt that both of these fighters will be IHOF five years after they retire. However they are both in decline (Roy more swiftly then Joe due to the massive weight loss he had to make).

It will be a good fight and I can personally see Joe being too busy to win the fight by UD probably by about three rounds. I wouldn't rule out Joe stopping Roy either due to accumalation of punishment.

All in all I hope for a great fight with two great fighters in the ring fighting for their legacy.

[crillz]

This is a VERY bad match up for Joe stylistically. still better than a Pavlik fight for Joe but in terms of hand to hand skills this is the worst possible fight for him. Joe comes forward a lot and his thing is to basically overwhelm you but with Jones he wont get to do that so frequently. Jones can Box, Joe can fight. this is what they do. Joe really just throws barrages and doesn't care too much for his defense, he has a decent style but for the most part he can be hit and if anyone at 168 or 175 can do that it's Jones.

people forget exactly who Roy Jones Jr is, they think of Tarver and Johnson and forget that Roy Jones somply didn't show up that night, his body did but his mind didn't, he was just there fighting in a way that can almost be considered insulting to himself and his abilities and even still he has a win over Tarver, he won their first fight so that speaks in high volumes about Jones and what he's capable of doing, some of you need to be reminded.

that being said Roy Jones can win this fight, honestly I like both Roy and Joe so I can already see that I will be both happy and sad for the winner and the loser but Roy can really win, I can very much see Roy imposing his jab and straight hand shots on Joe so Joe can throw and Roy can counter, a straight down the middle punch dropped Joe against Hopkins so what do you think will happen when a younger and stronger Roy hits him the same way? I know he has to catch him first but still, picture it. Joe would fall again.

see Roy can win on points just based off his skills alone, he can't go in there with a mindstate to put Joe away because it wont work, it's the opposite for Roy, he has to do everything in his power to keep the fight in the middle of the ring and keep Joe confused. for Joe he just has to do what he always does, stay aggressive and let his hands loose but his defense needs a little work and with this being his last fight presumably I don't think the defense will change. I lean more towards Roy but I'll tell you thats only because logically it makes more sense, Joe isn't a young dude neither for Boxing, they are both in their late 30's and age can catch up overnight to either one of them but judging by their last performances Roy will get the best of Joe. in time opinions change and maybe I might see something that isn't entirely clear to me right now but after sitting down and considering both fighters briefly I have more to go by with Jones, his skills I think will play the part. Joe can beat Jones but the question is will he? 100

[rod25]

Straight right HANDS, that's all RJJ needs to do! Move around the ring, when Joe swarms throw the 6 punch combo of uppercuts, hooks and straights, and move out the way!! RJJ would NOT take this fight unless he believed he has a legit shot!! The idea of 2 fights is awesome 1 in wales and 1 in US!!

[supremelygifted]

Roy Jones is shot Chunk. The lightning fast impossible to hit Jones of old has been replaced with an easy to hit shadow of his former self. He is absurdly cautious and no longer has the stamina to throw more than a single punch at a time. He still has his handspeed, but that, literally, is it. In addition, his chin is unquestionably made of the finest crystal. Did you see the Johbnson KO, a light punch to the side of the head!

Roy Jones has been boxing with the expectation of defeat since Antonio Tarver III, when he was happy just to get through the twelve. Even against Glen Johnson you could see that Jones was delighted when he won even a round. It was sad to see.

Unless Calzaghe has suddenly leapt over the hill himself, he will embarass Jones in this fight, spending most of it all over him like a rash. Thats not the opinion of a Calzaghe fan, but a fan of boxing in general, based on the evidence of my own eyes.

Jones was great, but he isn't anymore.

I agree with you on your assessment of Jones entirely. Which leads me ask you, Why would he (Calzahge) even consider ending his great career with a fight like this?