If Margarito is a "BUM"...

[Dirt E Gomez]

i have a feeling you are debating against me just to do it. polls are pretty good representations of what the people like. i can guarantee that we can make polls on diff boards and the result will be the same. majority opinion equates general consensus. Margarito and Cotto are more established in the mainstream media than Pavlik and Calzaghe. Anyone who says otherwise is just lying for the sake of argument.

You're polling boxingscene, where Margarito love runs rampant. Polls in general still are not the public. Polls can be used to prove any point.

Cotto is more known to the general public than Margarito, Pavlik, or Calzaghe. However, Pavlik and Calzaghe draw 2 very different groups together in boxing terms and would generate a much larger audience who wants to see it.

There's a reason Hatton-Mayweather did absolutely ridiculous buys, and it wasn't just Hatton and it wasn't just Mayweather.

[2501]

i said "messageboards", plural.

There's a reason Hatton-Mayweather did absolutely ridiculous buys,

yeah its called 24/7.

[Dirt E Gomez]

yea because calzaghe put on a wonderful show here against hopkins people here in the states now love him and cant wait to see him fight again.

There's basically a set # of fans who like/enjoy boxing enough to buy a PPV. The goal is to get as many of those people who are willing to go through and buy said event. Just because 1 fight might be more anticipated by the people who want to see it doesn't mean the fight that is more WIDELY anticipated is behind it.

[Dirt E Gomez]

i said "messageboards", plural.



yeah its called 24/7.

I was talking about polls in general, and most boxing forums would probably follow suit.

And no, it's not 24/7. Do you think people who don't care/like boxing watch the 24/7 shows? No. Mayweather-Hatton did well because of the hype of both 2 big fighters that appealed to something more than just their fanbases, but to the general public. It was a US vs UK showdown of 2 unbeaten fighters.

People love to root on their country, giving them an easy excuse to is a way to get a lot of people to watch.

[2501]

I was talking about polls in general, and most boxing forums would probably follow suit.

And no, it's not 24/7. Do you think people who don't care/like boxing watch the 24/7 shows? No. Mayweather-Hatton did well because of the hype of both 2 big fighters that appealed to something more than just their fanbases, but to the general public. It was a US vs UK showdown of 2 unbeaten fighters.

People love to root on their country, giving them an easy excuse to is a way to get a lot of people to watch.

sorry, but i completely disagree with you. the fight did well because it was promoted well. casual fans of today dont follow boxers like you are claiming. they get sold a "big fight", they'll buy the fight. its as simple as that. casual fans werent anticipating hatton/mayweather until the press machine started rolling. the difference between an anticipated fight and a promoted fight.

[Dirt E Gomez]

sorry, but i completely disagree with you. the fight did well because it was promoted well. casual fans of today dont follow boxers like you are claiming. they get sold a "big fight", they'll buy the fight. its as simple as that. casual fans werent anticipating hatton/mayweather until the press machine started rolling. the difference between an anticipated fight and a promoted fight.

Anticipation grows through promotion, which is something you obviously know but aren't crediting for some reason. It's what you have to work with. The large population has no interest in Margarito and wont have any reason to see Cotto fight him even with good promotion. With Calzaghe/Pavlik they'd have a US vs UK thing to get a huge fan draw from both nations, Pavlik's knockout power and Calzaghe can draw off of beating Hopkins.

If you're talking sincere anticipation before the word gets out about it to the public... I'm not sure what relevancy it'd have.

[ANDROID_DOES]

There's basically a set # of fans who like/enjoy boxing enough to buy a PPV. The goal is to get as many of those people who are willing to go through and buy said event. Just because 1 fight might be more anticipated by the people who want to see it doesn't mean the fight that is more WIDELY anticipated is behind it.

I promise more people will want to pay for cotto/margarito then calzaghe/pavlik.

[Dirt E Gomez]

I promise more people will want to pay for cotto/margarito then calzaghe/pavlik.

Funny choice of words... I agree that more people will "want" to pay for cotto/margarito but more people "would" pay for Calzaghe/Pavlik.

[ANDROID_DOES]

Anticipation grows through promotion, which is something you obviously know but aren't crediting for some reason. It's what you have to work with. The large population has no interest in Margarito and wont have any reason to see Cotto fight him even with good promotion. With Calzaghe/Pavlik they'd have a US vs UK thing to get a huge fan draw from both nations, Pavlik's knockout power and Calzaghe can draw off of beating Hopkins.

If you're talking sincere anticipation before the word gets out about it to the public... I'm not sure what relevancy it'd have.

dude stop already your making yourself look foolish. YOur a brit nut hugger and that is very obvious!!!! You're saying us vs uk is bigger then mexico vs puerto rico lmfao!!!!!!! you must have no knowledge of the sport of boxing or it's history espcially in the ww division. PLease please GET THE **** OUT OF HERE!!!!

[Jim Jeffries]

Cotto/Margarito promises to be a much more exciting fight than Calzaghe/Pavlik.