If Margarito is a "BUM"...

[baya]

if margarito is a bum why did he take so long to sign the contract for the biggest payday of his life?? why did mayweather turn down the biggest payday of his life to avoid a bum?? why did winky wright turn this man down for a career high payday?? any real boxing fan knows margarito is an elite fighter.

elite is definitely NOT a label you can apply to margarito, be real.

you become elite when you've got a great body of work or beat an elite fighter.

cotto has done this, if margarito finds a way to beat cotto then its applicable.

[C'MONMANG']

elite is definitely NOT a label you can apply to margarito, be real.

you become elite when you've got a great body of work or beat an elite fighter.

cotto has done this, if margarito finds a way to beat cotto then its applicable.

i cant argue this. Margarito is infact one of the best WW's in the world. thats a fact.......

[Mozza]

mexico vs. pr is the greatest rivalry in boxing history because every time the fans are treated to a war between two great warriors. the european fighters are very cowardly and boring to watch and so are americans. thats why there is never any excitement for these match ups. no one wanted to see calzaghe hopkins or any calzaghe fight. i think he is very boring to watch. the world wants to see two warriors go toe to toe and thats what well get when margarito destroys cotto.

There is never any excitement in these matches? This is beyond ridiculous.

[ANDROID_DOES]

I'm not using it as an example of that though. Why are you even saying that? Please show me where I said Calzaghe v Kessler was an example of the UK v US rivalry? We are having a debate here and as the debate progresses other matters are brought up which are of significance to the overall picture though not directly related. I don't know why I have to explain this to you.

It is a good idea when mocking someone, or at least pretending to, to get your facts right. Kessler is from Denmark which is quite apart from the UK.

You can remind me of how "non-anticipated" UK fighters are all you want but you will then have to go back to my point about Kessler earning more from that low rated HBO show than the Mexican will from the upcoming "super-fight" between Margarito and Cotto which you still don't seem to have understood.

Last i checked you can tell how much a fighter is anticipated by how many people tune in to watch them. So because they got paid more means people anticipate that fighter more then others? So gatti vs ward, marquez vs vasquez fights were anticipated and liked by the public since i think those guys didnt even hit the 7 figure mark in salary for that fight?

[C'MONMANG']

elite is definitely NOT a label you can apply to margarito, be real.

you become elite when you've got a great body of work or beat an elite fighter.

cotto has done this, if margarito finds a way to beat cotto then its applicable.

Hey Baya,

is Zab Judah "elite"..? and why..

[ANDROID_DOES]

I think you're missing our points.

I'm not saying that the UK vs USA rivalry is more passionate or more meaningful than PR vs Mexico... but more people have an investment, and thus care about UK vs USA. It's basically a matter of population, and the UK all ready generally being very invested in their fighters no matter what.

so mexicans cant afford to buy ppv events?

[Mozza]

Last i checked you can tell how much a fighter is anticipated by how many people tune in to watch them. So because they got paid more means people anticipate that fighter more then others? So gatti vs ward, marquez vs vasquez fights were anticipated and liked by the public since i think those guys didnt even hit the 7 figure mark in salary for that fight?

Okay if you are going to go by viewing figures you have to look at views around the world and you also can't continue to conveniently ignore the Hatton v Mayweather fight or any of Lennox Lewis' fights with Americans during the 90s and early 00s.

[ANDROID_DOES]

Really? What about Lewis v Tyson?

what else do you got? is that it?

[baya]

Hey Baya,

is Zab Judah "elite"..? and why..

elite - you can't apply that to zab either. we all know the story on zab.

Truth Moment - had that fight with Tzuyu continued, Zab wins it.

Ooooh!

[Dirt E Gomez]

so mexicans cant afford to buy ppv events?

While there's some truth to that, that's not what I meant at all.

By investment I simply meant an effort to know about them or a base rooting interest. Their is simply a large populace of people to care about the fight as opposed to Mexico vs PR... so please don't try to not accuse me of being racist.