Clarification: Cotto The Boxer

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  • Welter_Skelter
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    #11
    Originally posted by Addison
    Cotto's dedicated fans like to point out that he outBoxed so and so back when.. But the truth is; this current popular view of Cotto as a Boxer extraordinaire is a very new one.

    He developed the reputation virtually overnight. This time one year ago he was known simply as a body destroyer - with even potentially limited skills.

    Talk about how all of this came about, and your view on the subject.
    Well people develop over time... otherwise they would fight for the belt their 1st fight... he has developed into a decent Boxer Puncher Type.. he is certainly not Silky smooth or anything.. But he has a decent Jab when he uses it.. great foot work.. and Ok defence..
    Last edited by Welter_Skelter; 05-15-2008, 05:13 PM.

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    • Addison
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      #12
      Originally posted by chibomber
      Do you think margo can box?
      Of course he can. Nobody at the championship level is entirely one dimensional. Not Cotto, not Margarito. But calling either one of them a great Boxer is a bull**** thing to say.

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      • Addison
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        #13
        Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
        Well people develop over time... otherwise they would fight for the belt their 1st fight... he has developed into a decent Boxer Puncher Type.. he is certainly not Silky smooth or anything.. But he ahs s decent Jab when he uses it.. great foot work.. and Ok defence..
        I agree with this man here. A clear and realistic voice of reason.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Addison
          I agree with this man here. A clear and realistic voice of reason.
          you're just saying that because you think he's cute.

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          • chibomber
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            #15
            Originally posted by Addison
            NAPO, none of that adds up to the overblown hype we're getting on this. There is no understimating, just realism. I have eyes, I know this sport quite well. Cotto does a better job of selling his scoring than anyone in the sport - that he is a master at. He's extremely keen and sharp about making it very clear to the judges and the audience that he's landed a punch. Perception and reality aren't things I get confused, ever.
            I agree with you here,I think it has something to do w his extensive amature background just like PBF. They land not always to hurt you but just to score points. Mosley has stated that,that was his mistake he fell into that trap. Cause one thing judges score on is clean punching and also ring generalship. Two things cotto is great at doing.

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            • Welter_Skelter
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              #16
              Originally posted by Addison
              I agree with this man here. A clear and realistic voice of reason.
              But those are his tangibles, Addy.. His intangibles are what make him what he is.. His Heart and Will to win.. That is what seperates him from average boxers..

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                #17
                This is a question that has to be asked. The suggestion here coming from certain people is that Cotto's Boxing ability is so tremendous, so incredible, he'll be able to outBox an opponent like Antonio Margarito entirely. Does anyone have any idea what that would involve? What that would take?

                For anyone who knows the slightest bit about actual combat, to say that is a somewhat tall order would be an understatement of epic proportions. Not only does Margarito have very good Boxing abilities himself, he's a hydra, an octopus of long arms coming from every angle known to man in constant non-stop succession. Margarito is an extremely accurate improvisational puncher who can throw from any distance or quarters. His punches follow you around the ring like a fly on ****.

                The greatest pure Boxer to ever live, Willie Pep, had a virtually unsolvable puzzle as his nemesis with the hard throwing, volume punching, long limbed Sandy Saddler. Sound familiar? These guys are not easy.

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #18
                  "Do you think margo can adapt to the different contrasting styles cotto can throw at him?'

                  Cotto has more options, but if he gets drawn into a brawl he will have issues and will not be able to turn the fight the other way i reckon. He does have a lot of boxing advantages though while Marg possesses some physical advantages.

                  Cotto would be the favorite in my eyes but if the line is out of whack for Cotto my money will be on Margarito.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                    But those are his tangibles, Addy.. His intangibles are what make him what he is.. His Heart and Will to win.. That is what seperates him from average boxers..
                    Ok, well since you want to talk about that where was his heart and will to win when Shane Mosley jumped on him in the 9th round? Did it go on vacation?

                    His intangibles are going to help him to lose.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by chibomber
                      I agree with you here,I think it has something to do w his extensive amature background just like PBF. They land not always to hurt you but just to score points. Mosley has stated that,that was his mistake he fell into that trap. Cause one thing judges score on is clean punching and also ring generalship. Two things cotto is great at doing.
                      I agree, in certain specific areas Cotto is among the best Boxing has had in years. His dedication to the body and his 3rd person awareness.

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