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  • C'MONMANG'
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    #51
    Originally posted by bsrizpac
    Wow. Where to begin. Mosely is shot. He's not the Mosely of old. He's still really good. That's the whole point, I COULD make those arguments, but I'm not going to.

    You hate Floyd. Even if Floyd fights cotto tommorow and TKOs him you won't be happy. Let's get that out of the way.

    The Judah low blows were ridiculous. Please don't deny that they weren't extreme. As for the point deductions, fine, but rewatch the fight and tell me they weren't brutal.

    Now was to your logic of all these "undefeated" guys Cotto had trouble with. Remember how you defend Marg? How Marg lost to unkowns in Tijuana etc. etc. Well just in the same way I can say that most of the guys might have had padded records down from whatever country they came from.

    Also remember, you don't respect Floyd's undefeated record, so it's hardly proper to tout undefeated guys as some mark of them being good.

    dude Torres was 28-0..

    QUITNANA AT 147 DEBUT, UNDEFEATED........

    He is a good fighter. It's a good win, what's your point?

    MAlighnaggi was undefeated

    Do you think Pualie was a great threat? Do you think he'd be a threat to Floyd? be honest here.

    Maussa was undefeated

    Are you really trumpeting Maussa as an achievement? Didn't Ricky Hatton cleave his head off? The same Hatton you dismiss as "too small" for Floyd?

    Pinto was undefeated.

    Again undefeated does not always mean good. Pinto was game, and decent. That's it.

    My point isn't even that your counterpoints here are wrong. I'm just saying it's unfair to use this logic to defend Cotto or Marg, then ignore this logic when attacking Floyd. That's all.

    you are delusional . I hate Floyd? I HATE EM? .

    Go look at the top ten of the WW division. Cotto has fought 3 and is fighting his 4th, Same with MARGO. these are the two guys that Floyd openly said he wasnt fighting.

    oFCOURSE MOSLEY wasnt prime but he just beat Collazo convincingly something HAtton couldnt do.


    Quitana was undefeated and just came off an impressive when over another undefeafted PRIME welter. You dont think he looked the same in the Cotto fight? MAybe its because he was eating body shots from Miguel Cotto.

    Maussa went on to KTFO ViVIAN Harris.. and YES he was undefeated when Cotto fought him..

    Paulie went on to win a title, same with Torres..

    fLOYD FIRST FIGHT AT WW was Shotbay Mitchell who just KTFO by Kostay Zoo...LMAO... then Judah then Baldo, then a JWW


    i DONT HATE Floyd, if he fought the winner of Marg/ Cotto I would give him his props at WW..

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    • bsrizpac
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      #52
      Originally posted by c'monmang'
      you are delusional . I hate Floyd? I HATE EM? .

      Go look at the top ten of the WW division. Cotto has fought 3 and is fighting his 4th, Same with MARGO. these are the two guys that Floyd openly said he wasnt fighting.

      oFCOURSE MOSLEY wasnt prime but he just beat Collazo convincingly something HAtton couldnt do.


      Quitana was undefeated and just came off an impressive when over another undefeafted PRIME welter. You dont think he looked the same in the Cotto fight? MAybe its because he was eating body shots from Miguel Cotto.

      Maussa went on to KTFO ViVIAN Harris.. and YES he was undefeated when Cotto fought him..

      Paulie went on to win a title, same with Torres..

      fLOYD FIRST FIGHT AT WW was Shotbay Mitchell who just KTFO by Kostay Zoo...LMAO... then Judah then Baldo, then a JWW


      i DONT HATE Floyd, if he fought the winner of Marg/ Cotto I would give him his props at WW..

      ONCE AGAIN,

      You can't say JWW when referring to Hatton then TRUMP MAUSSA as a good win. It doesn't work. Sorry.

      And is that the Judah that most say is a good victory for Cotto? Just checking.

      The tone of your posts leads me to think you wouldn't be happy at all if he fought Cotto or Marg, but rather you just want to see him lose. That's fine too, but it's important to be honest about that. If you can give him props despite that, mad respect.

      i just see way too much nitpicking at his resume then rabid defense of a guy like Cottos. The breakdown I did of Miguel is to me, very similar to the words and language you are using to describe Floyd's fights. ANYONE can break a fighters record down and say he hasn't faced anyone. If you can't see that you're doing it for some people and not the other, well that's why I assume you dislike Floyd. Maybe I'm mistaken and you don't care either way.

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      • C'MONMANG'
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        #53
        Originally posted by bsrizpac
        ONCE AGAIN,

        You can't say JWW when referring to Hatton then TRUMP MAUSSA as a good win. It doesn't work. Sorry.
        And is that the Judah that most say is a good victory for Cotto? Just checking.

        The tone of your posts leads me to think you wouldn't be happy at all if he fought Cotto or Marg, but rather you just want to see him lose. That's fine too, but it's important to be honest about that. If you can give him props despite that, mad respect.

        i just see way too much nitpicking at his resume then rabid defense of a guy like Cottos. The breakdown I did of Miguel is to me, very similar to the words and language you are using to describe Floyd's fights. ANYONE can break a fighters record down and say he hasn't faced anyone. If you can't see that you're doing it for some people and not the other, well that's why I assume you dislike Floyd. Maybe I'm mistaken and you don't care either way.

        LMAO. why cant I? Cotto fought him at 140 gave him his first L.

        Hatton had no business at 147, showed it in the Collzao fight , went back down to 140. Then goes back to 147 to fight Floyd and is BACK at 140 again.

        HATTON ISNT A TOP WW, HE DID NOTHING TO DESERVE THAT FIGHT. Since beating Baldo for his WW title FLOYD HAS FOUGHT ZERO TOP WELTER AND EVEN STATED THAT HE HAD NO INTEREST IN FIGHT MIGUEL COTTO...

        Cotto's victory isnt anymore impressive then Floyds over Judah...HAPPY??

        Quitana, Mosley and now MARGARITO!! please go away!!

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        • bsrizpac
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          #54
          Originally posted by c'monmang'
          LMAO. why cant I? Cotto fought him at 140 gave him his first L.

          Hatton had no business at 147, showed it in the Collzao fight , went back down to 140. Then goes back to 147 to fight Floyd and is BACK at 140 again.

          HATTON ISNT A TOP WW, HE DID NOTHING TO DESERVE THAT FIGHT. Since beating Baldo for his WW title FLOYD HAS FOUGHT ZERO TOP WELTER AND EVEN STATED THAT HE HAD NO INTEREST IN FIGHT MIGUEL COTTO...

          Cotto's victory isnt anymore impressive then Floyds over Judah...HAPPY??

          Quitana, Mosley and now MARGARITO!! please go away!!
          Because Muassa is not any good. period. So you trumping it kinda odd.

          Hatton got the fight because TONS of people (very similar to the people yelling Cotto and Marg now) were saying Floyd was ducking him. Floyd was scared. Floyd would never fight him. In fact this place was the home for such sentiments. Hatton ran his mouth over and over again nonstop.

          Now as you remember Floyd had just fought Oscar at 150ish. He knew about Hatton's weakness and he knew from the Roy Jones/Tarver weight class, that dropping back down would not be good for him. Remember the Ricky Hatton is bigger than Floyd threads? Too powerful? Remember that Hatton started off where he was, and Floyd moved up from way south of that weight. It's Hatton's fault for agreeing to that weight. It doesn't discount the win. Do you really think Hatton would have beaten Floyd at 140? Even if not, and your whole point is about the WW division, do you really think Floyd was ducking Margarito when the Oscar fight was there for him? Why would someone fight Marg instead of Oscar? Especially when that someone has been trying to get a fight with Oscar for years and has been calling him out for years. I'm just saying.....

          All of these points are simply things that can make your statement "Hatton ****** at 147" seem an oversimplfication. Which it is. You don't account for anything Marg does or Cotto does.. You defend how much bigger Santos was when he beat Marg, but don't give Floyd credit for going up and beating a bigger Oscar.

          My point is: YOU CAN DISCOUNT any win. Except for guys like Moradde Hakkar. Everyone can agree that he's a bum.

          I agree that Floyd should fight the winner of Cotto/Marg. However, if he wishes to stay retired, that doesn't mean he wasn't great.

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          • KING •
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            #55
            Originally posted by Money May
            well if it DOES matter then DONT make statements like, "I am a FAN OF BOXING FIRST.." ....when you make a statement like that, then say what fights that you DON'T watch, it raises a RED flag. Because you CONTRADICT your own very statement that you are "a FAN OF BOXING FIRST". The question then arises in my head, I know that you are a fan of boxing BUT are you really a "FAN OF BOXING FIRST"?...

            A fan of boxing FIRST says, " I really dont like these two fighters, but since I have a fan of BOXING FIRST (not the fighters that may be fighting), I will watch it"

            The type of fan you have been shown to be is, "I am a fan of boxing FIRST, but I aint going to watch no these fighters because of their greed, and blah, blah, blah".

            do you see the point I am trying to make??
            Leave all that fancy bold italic **** up to your fellow **** rider Horus.

            You're giving me a headache.

            That's your opinion of what defines someone who is a "boxing first" fan.

            This is what leads me to believe you started watching boxing in the past year or two.

            Nobody has ever pulled the bull**** Floyd has and gotten away with it.

            But you seem to think this is standard.

            For someone to claim GOAT - you need to fight tough opposition and who is put in front of you.

            Not ride on Oscars coat tails and use Ricky Hattons fans to claim you pull #s.

            You act like I'm the ONLY person on earth who is a boxing first fan that has an issue with Mayweathers extreme pussification.
            Last edited by KING •; 05-15-2008, 12:53 PM.

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            • The Gambler1981
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              #56
              So you say he is gonna beat Margritto too? If Cotto loses to Marg that means he lost to the first champion he has faced in the ring and make his resume look like ****.

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              • flodistheshizle
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                #57
                Originally posted by c'monmang'
                if you have a question, ask it.

                As far as someone asking what Mosley did at 140, that makes no sense. Cotto fought SSM at 147. SSM used to be RING champ at 147 an dhe just came off a win against Collzao at 147.



                Mosley was way past his prime when he fought Cotto.Cotto was able to hit Mosley almost at will.And Mosley was tired by the third.When have you seen Mosley tired by the third before?


                Mosley was a shot fighter in my opinion.

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                • C'MONMANG'
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                  So you say he is gonna beat Margritto too? If Cotto loses to Marg that means he lost to the first champion he has faced in the ring and make his resume look like ****.
                  lmao. im rooting for Magro, but this has absolutely gotta be the WORST post I have ever read ..LMAO

                  LMAO!!

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                  • C'MONMANG'
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by flodistheshizle
                    Mosley was way past his prime when he fought Cotto.Cotto was able to hit Mosley almost at will.And Mosley was tired by the third.When have you seen Mosley tired by the third before?


                    Mosley was a shot fighter in my opinion.

                    when he fought Miguel Cotto.

                    Mosley had just given Collazo a one sided beat down. So that theory is GARBAGE ..not surprised tho coming from FLODISTHESHIZLE..lmao

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                    • bsrizpac
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      So you say he is gonna beat Margritto too? If Cotto loses to Marg that means he lost to the first champion he has faced in the ring and make his resume look like ****.

                      What the hell? That is ******ed.

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