You *****'s Are RIDICULOUS...

[COACH WEBB]

It's sad that you don't see how hypocritical all that is.

yea, it is. but he is so blinded that he can not see it.

[KING •]

Hypocritical how...

What legitimate arguement can be made against Miguel Cotto?

He's taking long to sign a contract...

What else?

He had a questionable chin at 140 which he is no longer...

Anything else? Nope...

[bsrizpac]

Hypocritical how...

What legitimate arguement can be made against Miguel Cotto?

He's taking long to sign a contract...

What else?

He had a questionable chin at 140 which he is no longer...

Anything else? Nope...

Well I wouldn't make these arguments because I really like Cotto but:

He lowblowed the **** out of Judah to beat him.
He started off very slowly and was heavily overprotected earlier on. He also got a lot of suspect help in fights like the Corley fight (granted this is earlier in his career). He also had trouble with no name fighters like Torres etc. In short he's been in a lot of life and death matches with fringe guys.
He's been down a lot for an elite fighter (you mentioned this already, and relates to the above point).
He didn't beat a shot Mosely by much.
He never fought Mayweather after the Gatti fight (of course you'll blame Mayweather for this but I remember that he and Hatton were not ready yet).
He has a limited style (it's improving now).


You can make the argument that Judah was a leftover of Mayweather, Mosely was shot and that Contender guy was a bum. Thus saying that his current career isn't much better than Mayweathers. Again I wouldn't make any of these arguments, but they are about as legitimate as obsessing over Mayweather's every move.



Again, I don't fault him for any of this. He's a very good fighter and awesome to watch. He reminds me of Tito in his prime for all the excitement he brings to a match. I try to never miss a Cotto fight.

[COACH WEBB]

Hypocritical how...

What legitimate arguement can be made against Miguel Cotto?

He's taking long to sign a contract...

What else?

He had a questionable chin at 140 which he is no longer...

Anything else? Nope...

*edit-I am not talking about Miguel Cotto himself. I am talking about YOU!!!!!!

How could you make this statment, "-I'm a fan of boxing first - then I support Miguel Cotto..."

but then above that statement you say this, " -I've never supported worthless rematches for the love of money..."

If you are such a FAN OF BOXING FIRST, then it does NOT matter who is fighting or why they are fighting, or if you like them, or if you like their fans... you will watch it because as you state, you are "a fan of boxing FIRST"...

That is where you are being hypocritical...

[KING •]

He lowblowed the **** out of Judah to beat him.

Was he behind at the point where he low blowed him? No. So he didn't low blow him to beat him - he hit him low during the course of the fight. Which isn't that expected from Cotto being that he loves to go to the body? If you go to the body 400 times I'm pretty sure 1 or 2 might land a little low.

He also got a lot of suspect help in fights like the Corley fight (granted this is earlier in his career).

Suspect help? Maybe Corley should learn the rules. He didn't want anymore of Cotto's power he was on his way out eventually. Had he not touched his knee down and had the fight stopped - he would've lost either way.

He also had trouble with no name fighters like Torres etc.

What do you define trouble as? Momentarily being stunned and then coming back to KO you shortly after? Malignaggi might have given Cotto more trouble than Torres when he was boxing outside. Torres landed a lucky punch - that's all.

He's been in a lot of life and death matches with fringe guys.

And he's knocked out or destroyed all of them in the long run...Your point?

He's been down a lot for an elite fighter

Down a lot? He's been down ONCE.

He didn't beat a shot Mosely by much.

A win is a win right? Mosley didn't do what was needed to stay in there.

He never fought Mayweather

Mayweather didn't want it then - he doesn't want it now.

He has a limited style (it's improving now).

Limited style? He's gotten better with every fight so it isn't improving "now". He's evolved with every single fight.

[KING •]

It DOES matter who is fighting who...

When you have douche bags who support a moron who is only fighting for money...

The self proclaimed G.O.A.T hasn't faced a number one contender in how long...

I rest my case...

[bsrizpac]

Was he behind at the point where he low blowed him? No. So he didn't low blow him to beat him - he hit him low during the course of the fight. Which isn't that expected from Cotto being that he loves to go to the body? If you go to the body 400 times I'm pretty sure 1 or 2 might land a little low.



Suspect help? Maybe Corley should learn the rules. He didn't want anymore of Cotto's power he was on his way out eventually. Had he not touched his knee down and had the fight stopped - he would've lost either way.



What do you define trouble as? Momentarily being stunned and then coming back to KO you shortly after? Malignaggi might have given Cotto more trouble than Torres when he was boxing outside. Torres landed a lucky punch - that's all.



And he's knocked out or destroyed all of them in the long run...Your point?



Down a lot? He's been down ONCE.



A win is a win right? Mosley didn't do what was needed to stay in there.



Mayweather didn't want it then - he doesn't want it now.

He has a limited style (it's improving now).

So basically to sum it up, you have a ton of excuses for Cotto but none for Mayweather. Gotcha.

Plus in case you didn't read it, I wouldn't use any of those arguments anyway so your point by point breakdown was worthless.

[KING •]

Excuses wow...

Please leave this thread now...

[C'MONMANG']

Well I wouldn't make these arguments because I really like Cotto but:

He lowblowed the **** out of Judah to beat him.
He started off very slowly and was heavily overprotected earlier on. He also got a lot of suspect help in fights like the Corley fight (granted this is earlier in his career). He also had trouble with no name fighters like Torres etc. In short he's been in a lot of life and death matches with fringe guys.
He's been down a lot for an elite fighter (you mentioned this already, and relates to the above point).
He didn't beat a shot Mosely by much.
He never fought Mayweather after the Gatti fight (of course you'll blame Mayweather for this but I remember that he and Hatton were not ready yet).
He has a limited style (it's improving now).


You can make the argument that Judah was a leftover of Mayweather, Mosely was shot and that Contender guy was a bum. Thus saying that his current career isn't much better than Mayweathers. Again I wouldn't make any of these arguments, but they are about as legitimate as obsessing over Mayweather's every move.



Again, I don't fault him for any of this. He's a very good fighter and awesome to watch. He reminds me of Tito in his prime for all the excitement he brings to a match. I try to never miss a Cotto fight.

Cotto stops Judah low blows or not. Was a point taken away? ( i cant remember)..

Mosley wasnt shot! are kidding me???
his resume at 147 and 140 TRUMPS Floyds..

dude Torres was 28-0..

QUITNANA AT 147 DEBUT, UNDEFEATED........

MAlighnaggi was undefeated

Maussa was undefeated

Pinto was undefeated...

[The Gambler1981]

"Mosley wasnt shot! are kidding me???
his resume at 147 and 140 TRUMPS Floyds.."

Mosley never even beat a fighter the calibur of Arturro Gatti at 140. Now he would have done ok in the division imo there is no proof.

I do not know what was up with Quintanna when he fought Cotto, in that fight he really did not look like the guy who beat Williams or the guy that beat Julio. A victory is a victory though and he beat the **** out of him.

Who had Torress,Pinto , Malinainaggi and Maussa beat to be that great or what have they really done since. I mean Torress belt is kinda tainted but maybe he really beat Holt I do not know. Paulie is what Paulie is and he will never be that great a feather fisted speed guy that eats to many clean punches. The other 2 are nobodies now and then.