JERMAIN TAYLOR is BETTER then CALZAGHE

[Kball15]

THAN THAN THAN THAN.. not then.. THAN....

Oh and you are wrong about the talent thing.. Taylor Has Skills.. Calzaghe oozes talent.. there is as big a difference between the 2 as there is between the meanings of than and then

lol, Calzahge is an amatuer, he doesnt have any talent.

And who cares about the THAN/THEN thing. its 3 dots not 2 or 4... same ****, who cares

[RichCCFC]

lol, Calzahge is an amatuer, he doesnt have any talent.

And who cares about the THAN/THEN thing. its 3 dots not 2 or 4... same ****, who cares

Calzaghe doesn't have ANY talent?

Ok then

[Kball15]

Kball this is the dumbest post you have ever posted, your posts get dumber by the day... LoL ... Taylor better then Calzaghe? And Kball is also the same person who thinks Allen Green punches harder then pavlik.. Roflamo

Taylor will never have the stamina to keep up with Calzaghe, the older man has a way better stamina and throws more punches then taylor ever will in his entire career. Taylors fast but thats all he has, his stamina is not that great he saves it up even against tiny middle weights who he was struggling with. Cory Stinks was even giving Taylor problems.

ignoring everything else you said, punch for punch Allan Green absolutely hits harder then Pavlik. Pavlik isnt even that big of a puncher, he just wears you down and he can punch really hard, which is why all his fights end in Brutal KO. Cause he'll wear you down so much that hitting you flush is just a matter of time.

Pavlik is MUCH better then Green, but Green is p4p one of the hardest punchers in boxing.

[TonyJ]

I guess I'll get a lot of flack for this, but it think Taylor is undeniably the more talented fighter, and if they were ever to fight, i dont see how you could pick Calzaghe.

Taylor has a great jab and Calzaghe literally does nothing to overcome a good jab. He just runs in there.

WOodhall, Veit, Kessler, Hopkins all have a very good jab. Nobody could land **** against Calzaghe with the jab. I've never seen such a bull**** statement on bs. Calzaghe is a guy against you can't land the jab. Oh dear, 2much incompetence...

[Fox McCloud]

lol, Calzahge is an amatuer, he doesnt have any talent.

And who cares about the THAN/THEN thing. its 3 dots not 2 or 4... same ****, who cares

He is one of the few badass in the sport who can fight like an amatuer, and still beat the well schooled elites like Kessler and Hopkins.

Pavlik is a clone of Kessler IMO. Jab and right are the biggest and only real weapons (when their man isn't stunned already).

Taylor is even less schooled than Kessler, and he is smaller. He WILL tire, and he WILL be backed into the ropes, and Calzaghe WILL unload on him and get the decision.

[Fox McCloud]

ignoring everything else you said, punch for punch Allan Green absolutely hits harder then Pavlik. Pavlik isnt even that big of a puncher, he just wears you down and he can punch really hard, which is why all his fights end in Brutal KO. Cause he'll wear you down so much that hitting you flush is just a matter of time.

Pavlik is MUCH better then Green, but Green is p4p one of the hardest punchers in boxing.

Who exactly has Green bulldozed through that makes you think he punches so hard?

He took about 20 punches to get Jaidon out of there.

Miranda didn't look hurt when he went down against Green.

I haven't seen nearly all of Green's fights though.

I actually like Allan Green, so I'm curious to know where you saw this power.

WOodhall, Veit, Kessler, Hopkins all have a very good jab. Nobody could land **** against Calzaghe with the jab. I've never seen such a bull**** statement on bs. Calzaghe is a guy against you can't land the jab. Oh dear, 2much incompetence...

Hopkins's jab sucks. He doesn't use it as a weapon at all. A range finder if anything at all is all it used for in his game.

Shane Mosley is another great fighter who has a terrible jab (compared to the good jabbers of the sport).

[KingTito]

I guess I'll get a lot of flack for this, but it think Taylor is undeniably the more talented fighter, and if they were ever to fight, i dont see how you could pick Calzaghe.

Taylor has a great jab and Calzaghe literally does nothing to overcome a good jab. He just runs in there.

Jab, Straight right hand, all night for Taylor. He avoided the ropes brilliantly against Pavlik in that rematch. No doubt he is terrible fighting off the ropes, he is no james toney, but he has become very good at avoiding them.

So in the center of the ring, i think Taylor outclasses Calzaghe with Calzaghe floundering around like a ****** for the much of the fight.

Does anybody honestly believe that Calzaghe would have beaten HOpkins if HOpkins had the legs to avoid the ropes???

I still get a chuckle when people call Calzaghe a good boxer. He is a good FIGHTER. He has very limited boxing ability, and it'll take a guy like Taylor with his quick jab to expose that.

Calzaghe-Pavlik is a much more even and close fight. Id pick Taylor by stoppage over Calzaghe in the late rounds.

You know what? I agree.

[x-PeROxiDE-x]

I don't know where to start Kball, everything you say is wrong.

Firstly, the jab thing is pissing me off. Taylor has a good jab, granted, but it's not as good as a number of Calzaghe's previous opponents. Plus, is Taylor's jab as good as Joe's? Easy answer, no.

Taylor's shoddy footwork would find him getting dropped multiple times. Joe is a master of making people move and getting them off balance before he throws. With Taylor already off balance, Calzaghe would slap the guy to the flat of his back.

I don't know where you got the idea that Taylor has dynamite in his gloves. Taylor struggles with light middleweights and all of a sudden he has the power to trouble a career 168'er who has a granite chin, I doubt it.

Joe punches hard enough to put Taylor away.

Taylor has absolutely NO stamina.

Joe is the stronger man, he would bully Taylor like he was a schoolchild.

Taylor was never really THAT good anyway, and Calzaghe is clearly the better technically, the more talented and ultimately victorious if he ever fights Taylor.


Calzaghe UD Taylor

Calzaghe KO10-12 Pavlik

I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is.


By the way KBall, I like the way you've tryed to cleverly disguise your use of "triangle theory", the last resort of a man with little to no boxing knowledge.

[Welter_Skelter]

lol, Calzahge is an amatuer, he doesnt have any talent.

And who cares about the THAN/THEN thing. its 3 dots not 2 or 4... same ****, who cares

Anyone Can learn Skills K-Ball.. but they are just That.. learned.. Talent is something people are born with.. They tend to rise above the Skilled.. despite often being unconventional.. This doesnt just happen in Boxing But all Sports and in fact.. any craft at all from Knitting to Bridge Buliding..

On that Note.. Taylor is a very Skilled Boxer.. But his biggest problem is a dearth of natural talent.. and That is obvious..

Calzaghe while not as Skilled as Taylor nor as Physically Gifted.. Is so talented it doesn't matter..

[Kball15]

Who exactly has Green bulldozed through that makes you think he punches so hard?

He took about 20 punches to get Jaidon out of there.

Miranda didn't look hurt when he went down against Green.

I haven't seen nearly all of Green's fights though.

I actually like Allan Green, so I'm curious to know where you saw this power.



Hopkins's jab sucks. He doesn't use it as a weapon at all. A range finder if anything at all is all it used for in his game.

Shane Mosley is another great fighter who has a terrible jab (compared to the good jabbers of the sport).

When Green lands flush full force, the fight is over 99% of the time. He doesnt land flush very often cause he really isnt that good when his opponent can block or box.

But watch his billion fights he had on ESPN 2 and SHOBOX pre Miranda. You'd basically just sit patiently until he landed that first flush shot, and a few seconds later his opponent would be twitching on the ground lol.

As the level of competition has increased, he is nearly as devestating, but he could still definetly knock anybody out in his division