Does Floyd Deserve To Be Called Greater Than Sugar Ray?

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  • BmoreBrawler
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    #111
    can we just ban the 9 who voted "yes" and be done with it?

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    • KING •
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      #112
      Yeah seriously...

      Who else would've voted yes aside from Burner and the three stooges...

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      • Dynamite Kid
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        #113
        why the **** do people overate this guy so much a great yes but his resume is'nt even close to the ATG fighters people like to compare him too

        when he beats a few more Elite fighters i might start to listen

        Dela Hoya 34 years old lost 5 times

        Hatton 140 lbs fighter disaster at 147

        these are the 2 best names on his record nuff said

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        • DuttyAlacrity
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          #114
          against SRR no WAY!!
          SRL there can probably be an arguement made because he got a lot of gift decisions
          ie hagler, hearns 2 (draw)... but i personally don't think pbf would lose to a 147 duran
          Last edited by DuttyAlacrity; 05-15-2008, 04:26 PM.

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          • Dynamite Kid
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            #115
            Originally posted by DuttyAlacrity
            against SRR no WAY!!
            SRL it can probably be argued because he got a lot of gift decisions
            ie hagler, hearns 2 (draw)
            gift decision he won 5 of the 1st 12 rounds against Hagler

            Hearns 2 ,Leonard had already whipped him & he was shot by the time they fought for a second time more so than Hearns was anyway

            J L Castillo beat Floyd Mayweather at least Hearns was an Elite fighter

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            • Evil Empire
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              #116
              Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhh NO... that is all

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              • The Gambler1981
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                #117
                How many round have you seen clearly on SRR. I know i have seen most of whats around and read up on him a lot but i can only judge how great fighters are of my own era. SRR was the man though, but he is only a man and any man is beatable. The main reason i would pick SRR is he is a bigger guy but SRR started at 135 right so it can not be that unfair a matchup.

                I guess i would go 65/35 SRR/FMJ, if Floyd was anymore then a 3 to 1 dog i would easily lay my money on him in this matchup which looking at the responces thats who my money would be on.

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Terrible...
                  gift decision he won 5 of the 1st 12 rounds against Hagler

                  Hearns 2 ,Leonard had already whipped him & he was shot by the time they fought for a second time more so than Hearns was anyway

                  J L Castillo beat Floyd Mayweather at least Hearns was an Elite fighter
                  SRL knew he lost against Hagler that's why he wouldn't fight him again... and he won 5 rounds MAX that still says that he lost...
                  There's no excuse for him being beat by hearns the 2nd time because he was getting beat the first time... luckily he had the heart and the punch to end the fight in the 14 or 15 round. If it went 12 rounds SRL would have lost that fight. And PBF would not lose to a 147 duran! Also Castillo at lightweight WAS an ELITE fighter don't get it twisted... When Floyd and castillo fought Castillo was the BEST lightweight out there... because of the controversy floyd fought him in an immediate rematch and we all saw what happened then... that's a little more than what we could say about SRL and HAGLER
                  Last edited by DuttyAlacrity; 05-15-2008, 04:41 PM. Reason: added "rounds"

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                  • Jambo boy
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    How many round have you seen clearly on SRR. I know i have seen most of whats around and read up on him a lot but i can only judge how great fighters are of my own era. SRR was the man though, but he is only a man and any man is beatable. The main reason i would pick SRR is he is a bigger guy but SRR started at 135 right so it can not be that unfair a matchup.

                    I guess i would go 65/35 SRR/FMJ, if Floyd was anymore then a 3 to 1 dog i would easily lay my money on him in this matchup which looking at the responces thats who my money would be on.
                    what are you on about comparing gayboy floyd to srr, he ko'd 108 people. Floyd has probably never sparred that many times ffs

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                    • Dynamite Kid
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                      #120
                      SRL knew he lost against Hagler that's why he wouldn't fight him again... and he won 5 MAX that still says that he lost...
                      There's no excuse for him being beat by hearns the 2nd time because he was getting beat the first time... luckily he had the heart and the punch to end the fight in the 14 or 15 round. If it went 12 rounds SRL would have lost that fight. And PBF would not lost to a 147 duran! Also Castillo at lightweight WAS an ELITE fighter don't get it twisted... When Floyd and castillo fought Castillo was the BEST lightweight out there... because of the controversy floyd fought him in an immediate rematch and we all saw what happened then... that's a little more than what we could say about SRL and HAGLER
                      Leonard did'nt fight Hagler again cause he did'nt need to he had already beaten him end of story ,he won the fight and just cause Hagler threw his dummy out & retired it dont mean he was robbed ,ive scored this fight that many times and even tried to give Hagler the benefit of the doubt and everytime i see Ray Leonard winning the fight or at least getting a draw

                      Castillo was a B Class fighter he is not in the league of Mosley let alone Hagler ,Hearns and he beat Floyd

                      Floyd probably rematched because he robbed Castillo ,Castillo is a B class fighter ,Floyd gives rematches cause he fight B Class fighters to pad his record or small or over the hill fighter like Oscar & Hatton

                      OVERATED

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