Pavlik is the only good opponent for Calzaghe

[ElGranLuchador]

Am I the only person here who thinks Kelly is very limited? Don't get me wrong, I like Kelly and have tons of respect for him, but his flaws are easy to see and I think a fighter like Joe would seriously expose those flaws.

yes i think so too i dont think hes gonna make 3 succesfull title defenses

[Bobby Shaw]

I've noticed a lot of people saying Calzaghe needs to fight Antonio Tarver/Chad Dawson/Glen Johnson to cement his legacy... Now that doesn't make any sense to me at all, since Dawson is just up and coming and his only good win was Johnson (and i'm not sure but from what i've read it was disputed?), whose only good win was a shot Jones jr. And then theres Tarver, who recently lost to Hopkins, who Calzaghe just beat.

Jones jr is past his prime and is due to his losses to both is less credible in a way than Tarver and Johnson, but Jones was once considered to be the best in the world, which Tarver and Johnson never were, and has looked much better in his last few fights than in those... and this fight makes more sense financially. So you can't blame him for taking this fight, because as much as a legacy is worth to a fighter, retiring with a fat bank account and living well after their career is much more important. This applies to ALL boxers, since fighting the best is also motivated by money. I also think it's cool that Roy came back to try again, like a true champion. Hats off to him if he beats Calzaghe, too.

But the only fight that would really prove Calzaghe to be great is a win against Pavlik, so that's the fight he should take after Jones jr, assuming that fight comes off. And I seriously don't see any other option. It seems like people call fights out for Calzaghe saying he needs them to prove he's the best, all the while predicting he's going to lose them, then bashing the opponent after he defeats them.

I'm not a Cal nuthugger, btw. I'm just stating the truth here. I agree his victory over Hopkins was less than impressive, although I do think he still won the fight.

You should know by now that Joe only fights has beens,geriatrics or non en******.
Dont mention Pavlik coz Joe wont find that jab palatable

[Naps]

I've noticed a lot of people saying Calzaghe needs to fight Antonio Tarver/Chad Dawson/Glen Johnson to cement his legacy... Now that doesn't make any sense to me at all, since Dawson is just up and coming and his only good win was Johnson (and i'm not sure but from what i've read it was disputed?), whose only good win was a shot Jones jr. And then theres Tarver, who recently lost to Hopkins, who Calzaghe just beat.

Jones jr is past his prime and is due to his losses to both is less credible in a way than Tarver and Johnson, but Jones was once considered to be the best in the world, which Tarver and Johnson never were, and has looked much better in his last few fights than in those... and this fight makes more sense financially. So you can't blame him for taking this fight, because as much as a legacy is worth to a fighter, retiring with a fat bank account and living well after their career is much more important. This applies to ALL boxers, since fighting the best is also motivated by money. I also think it's cool that Roy came back to try again, like a true champion. Hats off to him if he beats Calzaghe, too.

But the only fight that would really prove Calzaghe to be great is a win against Pavlik, so that's the fight he should take after Jones jr, assuming that fight comes off. And I seriously don't see any other option. It seems like people call fights out for Calzaghe saying he needs them to prove he's the best, all the while predicting he's going to lose them, then bashing the opponent after he defeats them.

I'm not a Cal nuthugger, btw. I'm just stating the truth here. I agree his victory over Hopkins was less than impressive, although I do think he still won the fight.

Agree with every single thing you said. +1.

BTW, is that Errol Flynn in your sig?

[Bobby Shaw]

yes i think so too i dont think hes gonna make 3 succesfull title defenses

Kelly has flaws but Joe doesnt have the power to stop him.Kelly relies on his heavy handed jab and it will find its way to Joe's lips all night long.

I think Kelly can knock out Joe

[ElGranLuchador]

Kelly has flaws but Joe doesnt have the power to stop him.Kelly relies on his heavy handed jab and it will find its way to Joe's lips all night long.

I think Kelly can knock out Joe

kelly is a good fighter against like 70 percent of boxers i mean his jab jab big right hand is effective against most but calzaghe would abuse him with lateral movement and quick slaps
also calzaghe cant be koed he wasnt even hurt by hopkins just caught off guard
and kelly is known to have a weak chin i mean hes been down like 8 times in his career against lesser punchers than calzaghe

[GMitchell]

Agree with every single thing you said. +1.

BTW, is that Errol Flynn in your sig?

Thanks, and yes it is. Yes it is

[Drunk Punch]

The Pavlik fight makes sense for both fighters. For Calzaghe it's a chance at real credibility with the US audience and for Pavlik it represents a big scalp, and at 168 none of his titles would be on the line.

[S A M U R A I]

I don't know if I'd call him very limited, but on the other hand I don't think he is seasoned enough yet to fight someone like Joe Calzaghe.

Yes, you're right, I was wrong to say "very" limited. I'll take that back.

I can see your point, and I'm a huge fan of Kelly's. But I think whatever flaws he may have are very limited in terms of being taken advantage of. I think he showed a lot of what he's made of in the second Taylor fight, more so than the first. He proved he can go toe-to-toe with a more athletically gifted fighter in a boxing match, and still **** em' out.

For me, Taylor won that second fight. I know I'm probably in the minority but I had it 7-5 for Jermain.



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[ßringer]

kelly is a good fighter against like 70 percent of boxers i mean his jab jab big right hand is effective against most but calzaghe would abuse him with lateral movement and quick slaps
also calzaghe cant be koed he wasnt even hurt by hopkins just caught off guard
and kelly is known to have a weak chin i mean hes been down like 8 times in his career against lesser punchers than calzaghe

This might be the dumbest **** I've read all day. Hopkins floored his ass, beast style. And he wobbled his ass at the end of round 7. And again in round 11 Hopkins landed a straight right that sent Joe staggering backwards. That's when Hopkins started pounding his chest and telling Joe to "come on".

Calzaghe was hurt at least 3 times in that fight.

[abadger]

puh lease.........................................

Come on, you only have to look at their styles, quite similar, except Kessler is more technically proficient and probably more powerful.

You should try to realise that just because you disagree with something, that doesn't make it ridiculous.