..COTTO/MAYWEATHER: What The Numbers Mean...

[Horus]

Here is my repost

Some of the same arguments used against Cotto vs. Floyd
were being used against Floyd vs. Oscar

Some Floyd Fans are just using the same standard and credible stipulations Place on Floyd...to fight Oscar....

On Cotto vs. Floyd ..

That's just how it goes...

Us Floyd fans had to wait 6 years for Floyd to Fight Oscar...
So how you think we felt about that....

But we didnt ***** and complain as bad as you cotto fans are doing...
We just set back as we watch Our fighter stack up victories and boost his market appeal and boxing prestige so he could get a fight with Oscar...

We Waited 6 years for the fight to happen....
and when it happen we were vindicated....and we rubbed it in Oscar Fans Faces....



Soo.....now you Cotto fans know how it feels to be fan of a fighter when credible stipulations and standards are put on your fighter as to why he might not fight another fighter THAT YOU WANT HIM TO FIGHT

....EVEN AFTER you think YOUR FIGHTER HAS PROVEN THAT HE SHOULD FIGHT THE OTHER FIGHTER....

and it makes you mad when those arguments are credible why the fight might not happen or why it isnt happening...


Welcome to THE CLUB...!!!


Look at HBO making the argument that Floyd isnt a big enough star to fight Oscar..!!!

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WHAT I DONT GET IS WHY DIDNT THEY PUSH THE
FLOYD VS. OSCAR FIGHT

LIKE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH THE
COTTO VS FLOYD FIGHT.....


WHAT KIND OF DOUBLE STANDARD IS THAT......!!!!!

@ Larry Merchant and STEWARD

So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd

and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen

But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards... before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!!

Double Standard once again....


But here is the common factor in any those situations,
1. the fight eventually happen
2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!!


So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!!
if it works....????

I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case....

But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!!


Obviously this format works...!!!





and plus cotto needs to build his boxing prestige.....

[KING •]

cotto needs to build his boxing prestige.....

Floyd and Leonard haven't said this yet...

You making up excuses FOR them now?

Good ****!

[froggy]

He doesn't need to. Hearns and Hagler never would gain the attention Leonard had. But the fights still made sense and money.

ok i want to see mayweather-cotto, but u have to accept that mayweather can make more money doing other things; de la hoya rematch WILL make mayweather more money than cotto right?

[THe TRiNiTY]

That's quite an assumption. Especially since he's suing him. LOL. And trying to get Cotto to leave Arum by making comments about "going independant" or "being your own boss."

Trust me, it's a little deeper than what you're assuming.

I'm not assuming that he's money hungry. And people sue people all the time and do business with them. De La Hoya sued Arum. Look at the fights that were made. Arum sued Oscar, AS THEY DID BUSINESS. All this after De La Hoya claimed to have 'beaten the biggest *** that came out of Harvard.'

In terms of all that independant stuff, I think it's too allow Mayweather to deal with Cotto DIRECTLY. Which would allow Mayweather to gain more money IF they did fight. I think that's wrong. This is ONE time that having Arum in your corner, could be a good thing.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Here is my repost

So basically it is ok for Oscar to make Floyd meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Floyd waiting for 6 years....For Oscar to fight Floyd

and it is ok that SRL made Hagler Wait until he meet all his stipulations and standards... which amounted in Hagler waiting for 7 years For the SRL vs. Hagler fight to happen

But it is not ok for Floyd to make Cotto meet all his stipulations and standards... before the Floyd vs. Cotto fight can happen..!!

Double Standard once again....


But here is the common factor in any those situations,
1. the fight eventually happen
2. When the fight happen it was the biggest thing in Boxing....!!!


So why Cant Floyd follow a successful Format...!!
if it works....????

I not saying Have cotto wait 7 years...or 6 years in Floyd case....

But why not let Cotto wait, and let the fight Build up to what it should be...!!!


Obviously this format works...!!!





and plus cotto needs to build his boxing prestige.....

And what about if Cotto or Mayweather lose before they fight? How do you hype up the fight bigger then 'Two Undefeated Prime Fighters' with one or BOTH of them having a loss? Waiting too long only brings upon problems.

[THe TRiNiTY]

ok i want to see mayweather-cotto, but u have to accept that mayweather can make more money doing other things; de la hoya rematch WILL make mayweather more money than cotto right?

I never said it wouldn't. But an OLDER fighter in De La Hoya is fighting THIS YEAR, AFTER the fight with Mayweather. Why couldn't a YOUNGER fighter like Mayweather fight in the beginning of NEXT YEAR? I know it's a ways off so it still COULD happen. But, he refuses to even discuss it.

[Horus]

And what about if Cotto or Mayweather lose before they fight? How do you hype up the fight bigger then 'Two Undefeated Prime Fighters' with one or BOTH of them having a loss? Waiting too long only brings upon problems.

If mayweather loses to Oscar....Then obivious a rematch is in order...

and if Cotto loses to margarito then obviously a rematch is order......



Srl vs. Hagler wasnt a fight between two undefeated fighters
Floyd vs. Oscar wasnt a match between two undefeated fighters

But it was still a great boxing match and event....


But i am not worrying about Floyd losing...

but the question are you worrying about Cotto losing...?

[THe TRiNiTY]

If mayweather loses to Oscar....Then obivious a rematch is in order...

and if Cotto loses to margarito then obviously a rematch is order......



Srl vs. Hagler wasnt a fight between two undefeated fighters
Floyd vs. Oscar wasnt a match between two undefeated fighters

But it was still a great boxing match and event....


But i am not worrying about Floyd losing...

but the question are you worrying about Cotto losing...?

How COULD I be worried about either one if I want them to fight eachother. Clearly, one will have to lose. I'm not even saying I'm pciking Cotto. I probably wouldn't. I just want to see the fight.

For the record, Hagler/Leonard was big because it was the last TRULY big fight for either.

[IMDAZED]

I'm not assuming that he's money hungry. And people sue people all the time and do business with them. De La Hoya sued Arum. Look at the fights that were made. Arum sued Oscar, AS THEY DID BUSINESS. All this after De La Hoya claimed to have 'beaten the biggest *** that came out of Harvard.'

In terms of all that independant stuff, I think it's too allow Mayweather to deal with Cotto DIRECTLY. Which would allow Mayweather to gain more money IF they did fight. I think that's wrong. This is ONE time that having Arum in your corner, could be a good thing.

I don't understand what you're saying. And I think vice-versa. Let me spell it out for you:

The chances of Floyd Mayweather doing business with Bob Arum are very, very LOW. VERY.

And it goes waay back, from Floyd feeling Arum improperly promoted him for many years (while building up lesser hispanic fighters like Erik Morales) and then not giving him fights against these guys (they were 4-8 pounds apart at most). Floyd didn't start seeing eight figures until he went out on his own.

And now he's suing him for back pay?

Hell no, this fight isn't happening. And if you think it's because Floyd's scared, I've got soem cheap oil to sell you in the US (not directed atyou but at those who make that claim). What about when both were at 140 and Floyd called him out endlessly? You think he got scared after watching him go life and death with Mosley? Or beat up on a reality show fighter?

Not in the least.

[KING •]

The point dude is trying to make is the fight will be even greater if it happens when they are both undefeated...

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