Name one fighter on Floyd's resume that cotto couldnt beat

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  • Mr. Ryan
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    #261
    Originally posted by DWiens421
    Does anyone think that Roger Mayweather was as good of a fighter that Jr. is? Shocking if anyone does.

    Accuracy is the antidote for great defense. Mayweather has it. De Jesus does not have the experience to deal with it IMO.
    I haven't seen this DeJesus character, but I just don't see a prospect toppling the P4P best to be honest. I think if he could do it, he'd have atleast beaten someone with a belt already.

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      #262
      Originally posted by DWiens421
      Does anyone think that Roger Mayweather was as good of a fighter that Jr. is? Shocking if anyone does.

      Accuracy is the antidote for great defense. Mayweather has it. De Jesus does not have the experience to deal with it IMO.
      Well, first pollos gonna taker a belt at lightweighter weight but for sure he'll move up to Weltwerweight, its noot a matter vof if its when, and after Cotto loses to Mayweather pollo can jump in . Oddly enough the real Whitaker took down Rodger Mayweather in his 16th bout for a title, means Pollos ready, we shall see how he does against Writter or Hatton than jump up for the money classic match up.

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        #263
        Originally posted by boxing_prospect
        actually before the ko, the fight was pretty even. and vargas gave oscar a pretty tough time.
        Vargas was a much stronger guy than DLH. Through eight I thought it was even, then it was all DLH. Vargas won all the odd rounds through 7, DLH the even ones.

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          #264
          Originally posted by Easy-E
          Also, LOL at this thread starter
          Lifestyle...Flashy? we already know who you rooting for. damn you floyd fans really start to squeal when anyone even mentions floyd. why get so over-protective??? stop getting on the defensive like someone is insulting your son. This goes to all mayweather fans. Godamn

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            #265
            Originally posted by boxing_prospect
            good point DWiens, cotto did outbox him, and floyd is by far a more superior boxer than cotto. but mosley-mayweather would be a totally different matchup, in fact a match up of 2 almost similar styles. both men can box, sugar takes more chances though, while mayweather totally avoids risks at all times. and i actually think that mosley got better handspeed than floyd. and except for Judah, floyd has never fought anyone as quick. dont except mosley to approach this fight the same way he did with cotto. it would be a totally different fight. i got mosley winning convincingly.

            now size wise oscar could mean trouble for cotto. but knowing how good a bodypuncher miguel is, and oscar's previous ko history by a bodypunch, the chances even up right there. plus miguel is younger, and i would pick him to beat oscar if the fight is made on December.
            I don't really know how well Mosley can box. His jab is terrible... just dreadful for an elite fighter. He is more suited to throwing combinations from mid-range, but if he is forced to get on his toes and outbox someone, it generally doesn't go that well.

            If it is a pure boxing match, Mayweather wins probably close to every round. If Mosley fights the way Mosley fights, he can make it a lot closer.

            Unfortunately, the jab is the way to stop Mosley from doing his thing, and Mayweather has a very good jab, and will use it when he sees it is working.

            Originally posted by Easy-E
            Vargas put up a fight, but he was losing and was knocked out by De La Hoya.
            That is not grounds to claim Cotto could beat DLH.
            Well that's good, because I never claimed that was the grounds I was using for Cotto beating DLH. By the way, a prime Vargas did well against a prime DLH. A prime Cotto would probably do better against a past-his-prime DLH.

            EDIT: Vargas was winning on one of the scorecards at the time of the stoppage.

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              #266
              Originally posted by Asian Sensation
              Vargas was a much stronger guy than DLH. Through eight I thought it was even, then it was all DLH. Vargas won all the odd rounds through 7, DLH the even ones.
              the size and strength really made it tough on oscar. not to mention that vagas was juiced up for that fight. trained hard, was doing weightlifting. it was expected, in the earlier rounds vargas would be the boss, tire out, and oscar would take over.

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                #267
                Threadstealer summed up Mosley's style pretty good. "Speedy Slugger"

                I'd completely agree with it.

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                  #268
                  Originally posted by warp1432
                  Threadstealer summed up Mosley's style pretty good. "Speedy Slugger"

                  I'd completely agree with it.
                  ... I do think that is selling him short just a bit.

                  Most sluggers don't have the counterpunching skills that Sugar Shane does.

                  How about, a jabless, mid-range pressure fighter/counterpuncher?

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                    #269
                    Originally posted by DWiens421
                    I don't really know how well Mosley can box. His jab is terrible... just dreadful for an elite fighter. He is more suited to throwing combinations from mid-range, but if he is forced to get on his toes and outbox someone, it generally doesn't go that well.

                    If it is a pure boxing match, Mayweather wins probably close to every round. If Mosley fights the way Mosley fights, he can make it a lot closer.

                    Unfortunately, the jab is the way to stop Mosley from doing his thing, and Mayweather has a very good jab, and will use it when he sees it is working
                    mosley can box, it's just he likes to brawl more and it really takes away from his ability as a boxer when you watch him. shane is not that crafty with the jab, but he boxes in flurries. i guess you could say he's a little like judah, id say zab's jab is a little better but neither man really focuses too much on setting it up. because of their speed they can throw quick combinations and get away with it.

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                      #270
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      ... I do think that is selling him short just a bit.

                      Most sluggers don't have the counterpunching skills that Sugar Shane does.

                      How about, a jabless, mid-range pressure fighter/counterpuncher?
                      Well Mosley likes to stay in the pocket a lot more longer then say a midrange person.

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