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  • x3_bazooka_x3
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    #31
    Originally posted by HTownTexan
    Because he fights in NY, the PR capital of the US of A. Anywhere else he doesnt sell out. period. If Floyd fought on the same night as Tarver, Floyd would get 19 out of every 20 viewers. Cotto can't. He is a LOCAL fighter. If he doesnt fight in NY or around NY he wont sell ****.
    I am not talking about TV Viewers I am talking about ticket sales, Floyd does not sell tickets in his own back yard unless he is fighting a big name period, Cotto can fight a nobody in his backyard and sell out now why is that? because even his own fans dont truely support his style of fighting not enough to pay to see it.

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      #32
      Originally posted by x3_bazooka_x3
      I am not talking about TV Viewers I am talking about ticket sales, Floyd does not sell tickets in his own back yard unless he is fighting a big name period, Cotto can fight a nobody in his backyard and sell out now why is that? because even his own fans dont truely support his style of fighting not enough to pay to see it.
      If Floyd went to Grand Raids, and had a fight there against lets say.......Oktay Urkal, he would sell out because of his name and because that is his native home. Same with Cotto. There is a reason that Gatti, Baldomir, Zab, ODLH, and others made their biggest pay days against Floyd, because he is THE attraction of the sport. Cotto is the attraction of NY and surrounding areas.

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      • 2501
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        #33
        guess we're gonna find out on July 26 then right? if the fight does 350,000+, Cotto would still be unknown right? He still would be irrelevant right? it would be because he was fighting Tony right?

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          #34
          Originally posted by 2501
          guess we're gonna find out on July 26 then right? if the fight does 350,000+, Cotto would still be unknown right? He still would be irrelevant right? it would be because he was fighting Tony right?
          So what are you saying the tony is an unknown fighter

          he was the top welterweight befoe cotto or gayweather entered the division, most feared welter that is

          cotto vs margarito are top welterweights and it would be a puerto rico vs mexico thing
          Last edited by Cobrita; 04-25-2008, 06:00 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by 2501
            guess we're gonna find out on July 26 then right? if the fight does 350,000+, Cotto would still be unknown right? He still would be irrelevant right? it would be because he was fighting Tony right?
            It will do alot more than that because it is proven that Mexicans spend there money on their fighters, like Marquez, DLH, Chavez, Barrera, Morales. And PR wil buy it because of Cotto. But PR are a very small percentage of the US compared to Mexicans. Mexicans will out buy PR's 3 or 4 to 1.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Cobrita
              So what are you saying Tony is an unknown fighter
              thats what YOU guys say remember? Tony is unknown, thats why Floyd wouldnt fight him for 8 milly. thats the main detraction from the Floyd groupies.

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                #37
                Originally posted by HTownTexan
                yeah he is going in the right direction because him and his people want 1 big money making fight. All he fights are fighters that are washed up with good names, and feather fisted fighters. I'll give it to him, he has power and decent speed, but thats why he fights feather fisted people so he can go inside, show his power and not be in any REAL danger of losing the fight.

                I will say this, Cotto has fought some decent threats...
                he is good as it gets when he think about fighters who are on the cusp's of greatness.....

                The thing that is holding Cotto back, is Bob Arum....

                Bob Arum is not letting Cotto take no risk in building his career...

                When Bob Had Floyd.....Floyd was taking nothing but risk fights for all of his big fights..



                Tell Me who in Floyd Generation Has done what Floyd has Done...??

                Only Person i can say comes Close is Holyfield....
                after that who....?

                You Cant put Roy Jones Past Floyd Because He resume is Completely Stack of who is that fighters...

                1994-2002 Roy Jones Resume is a
                1996-2002 Floyd Mayweather
                Genaro Hernandez
                Angel Manfredy
                Diego Corrales
                Carlos Hernandez
                Jesus Chavez
                Jose Luis Castillo

                Remember Floyd turn Pro in 1996

                Look at it like this After only 2 years turning Pro
                Floyd Mayweather was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Divison.... Only 2 years after turning Pro
                (http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1998)
                Floyd Mayweather was ranked 2th on P4P List in Only 3 years of After turning Pro Number 1 in his Division
                (http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1999)

                And We all know that he has been recognized number #1 for almost 4 years now....

                In a shorter period of time From a Ranking Stand Point Floyd Mayweather Has risen higher than anybody.

                And that is because dude resume is Stacked...
                Dude was a WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.... not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but WBC world Champion at 21 years old


                Look at this PBF stat under Bob Arum.....


                FORMER JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP (’05)
                FORMER LIGHTWEIGHT (2002-04)
                FORMER JR. LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMP (1998-00)
                17-0-0, 8 KO’S IN CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS
                9-0-0 (6) at jr. light.
                4-0-0 (1) at light.
                1-0-0 (1) at jr. welter.
                2-0-0 (0) at welter.
                1-0-0 (0) at jr. middle.
                17 CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 166 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 9.8 ROUNDS
                (63% of his pro rounds have been fought in championship fights)
                38 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 265 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 7.0 ROUNDS
                (45% of his fights have been championship fights)






                So why haven't Arum Put Cotto on that Path Yet....
                Is my only Question...



                Cotto has yet, to fight a young, prime, active, p4p fighter
                and he is what 7 years into his career..?

                Here is Cotto's biggest Fights:
                36 year Shane Mosely
                and
                2 year lay out Zab Judah




                Cotto is finally staring to start challenge himself with Margarito, but Margarito not even a great fighter or p4p ranked....
                But he is in his primeand a champion, so i will give Cotto that....


                Cotto i feel has never really dare to be Great...



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                  #38
                  Originally posted by 2501
                  thats what YOU guys say remember? Tony is unknown, thats why Floyd wouldnt fight him for 8 milly. thats the main detraction from the Floyd groupies.
                  wtf when did i say that? quote me now! gayweather is a ***** for not fighting him

                  if cotto vs margarito does well ppv , are u saying that it will be just because of cotto? answer plz

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Horus

                    I will say this, Cotto has fought some decent threats...
                    he is good as it gets when he think about fighters who are on the cusp's of greatness.....

                    The thing that is holding Cotto back, is Bob Arum....

                    Bob Arum is not letting Cotto take no risk in building his career...

                    When Bob Had Floyd.....Floyd was taking nothing but risk fights for all of his big fights..



                    Tell Me who in Floyd Generation Has done what Floyd has Done...??

                    Only Person i can say comes Close is Holyfield....
                    after that who....?

                    You Cant put Roy Jones Past Floyd Because He resume is Completely Stack of who is that fighters...

                    1994-2002 Roy Jones Resume is a
                    1996-2002 Floyd Mayweather
                    Genaro Hernandez
                    Angel Manfredy
                    Diego Corrales
                    Carlos Hernandez
                    Jesus Chavez
                    Jose Luis Castillo

                    Remember Floyd turn Pro in 1996

                    Look at it like this After only 2 years turning Pro
                    Floyd Mayweather was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Divison.... Only 2 years after turning Pro
                    (http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1998)
                    Floyd Mayweather was ranked 2th on P4P List in Only 3 years of After turning Pro Number 1 in his Division
                    (http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1999)

                    And We all know that he has been recognized number #1 for almost 4 years now....

                    In a shorter period of time From a Ranking Stand Point Floyd Mayweather Has risen higher than anybody.

                    And that is because dude resume is Stacked...
                    Dude was a WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.... not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but WBC world Champion at 21 years old


                    Look at this PBF stat under Bob Arum.....


                    FORMER JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP (’05)
                    FORMER LIGHTWEIGHT (2002-04)
                    FORMER JR. LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMP (1998-00)
                    17-0-0, 8 KO’S IN CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS
                    9-0-0 (6) at jr. light.
                    4-0-0 (1) at light.
                    1-0-0 (1) at jr. welter.
                    2-0-0 (0) at welter.
                    1-0-0 (0) at jr. middle.
                    17 CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 166 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 9.8 ROUNDS
                    (63% of his pro rounds have been fought in championship fights)
                    38 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 265 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 7.0 ROUNDS
                    (45% of his fights have been championship fights)






                    So why haven't Arum Put Cotto on that Path Yet....
                    Is my only Question...



                    Cotto has yet, to fight a young, prime, active, p4p fighter
                    and he is what 7 years into his career..?

                    Here is Cotto's biggest Fights:
                    36 year Shane Mosely
                    and
                    2 year lay out Zab Judah




                    Cotto is finally staring to start challenge himself with Margarito, but Margarito not even a great fighter or p4p ranked....
                    But he is in his primeand a champion, so i will give Cotto that....


                    Cotto i feel has never really dare to be Great...



                    wtf is that sorry i couldnt help but laugh get laid dude u have too much time

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Horus

                      I will say this, Cotto has fought some decent threats...
                      he is good as it gets when he think about fighters who are on the cusp's of greatness.....

                      The thing that is holding Cotto back, is Bob Arum....

                      Bob Arum is not letting Cotto take no risk in building his career...

                      When Bob Had Floyd.....Floyd was taking nothing but risk fights for all of his big fights..



                      Tell Me who in Floyd Generation Has done what Floyd has Done...??

                      Only Person i can say comes Close is Holyfield....
                      after that who....?

                      You Cant put Roy Jones Past Floyd Because He resume is Completely Stack of who is that fighters...

                      1994-2002 Roy Jones Resume is a
                      1996-2002 Floyd Mayweather
                      Genaro Hernandez
                      Angel Manfredy
                      Diego Corrales
                      Carlos Hernandez
                      Jesus Chavez
                      Jose Luis Castillo

                      Remember Floyd turn Pro in 1996

                      Look at it like this After only 2 years turning Pro
                      Floyd Mayweather was ranked 8th On the P4P List and Number 1 in his Divison.... Only 2 years after turning Pro
                      (http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1998)
                      Floyd Mayweather was ranked 2th on P4P List in Only 3 years of After turning Pro Number 1 in his Division
                      (http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.ph..._Ratings:_1999)

                      And We all know that he has been recognized number #1 for almost 4 years now....

                      In a shorter period of time From a Ranking Stand Point Floyd Mayweather Has risen higher than anybody.

                      And that is because dude resume is Stacked...
                      Dude was a WBC world Champion at 21 years old and 17 fights.... not no international or state or any other bull**** title, but WBC world Champion at 21 years old


                      Look at this PBF stat under Bob Arum.....


                      FORMER JUNIOR WELTERWEIGHT CHAMP (’05)
                      FORMER LIGHTWEIGHT (2002-04)
                      FORMER JR. LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMP (1998-00)
                      17-0-0, 8 KO’S IN CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS
                      9-0-0 (6) at jr. light.
                      4-0-0 (1) at light.
                      1-0-0 (1) at jr. welter.
                      2-0-0 (0) at welter.
                      1-0-0 (0) at jr. middle.
                      17 CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 166 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 9.8 ROUNDS
                      (63% of his pro rounds have been fought in championship fights)
                      38 FIGHTS HAVE LASTED 265 ROUNDS AND AVERAGED 7.0 ROUNDS
                      (45% of his fights have been championship fights)






                      So why haven't Arum Put Cotto on that Path Yet....
                      Is my only Question...



                      Cotto has yet, to fight a young, prime, active, p4p fighter
                      and he is what 7 years into his career..?

                      Here is Cotto's biggest Fights:
                      36 year Shane Mosely
                      and
                      2 year lay out Zab Judah




                      Cotto is finally staring to start challenge himself with Margarito, but Margarito not even a great fighter or p4p ranked....
                      But he is in his primeand a champion, so i will give Cotto that....


                      Cotto i feel has never really dare to be Great...



                      Oscar's competition is vastly superior. Yes ,Oscar has losses, but look at the guys he fought. Floyd at 130 was special, after 135 his opposition is not that great.

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