Cotto-Margarito West Bound, Vegas Caves In

[Left2body]

Now, I know this is all contingent on the size of the gloves but the fact that they're leaping at this away from Cotto's 10,000 soldiers in NY has to raise an eyebrow or two, no? I know what's up..

I honestly dont know whats up....seriously not trying to be funny can you expand.

On the Vegas venue I said it way before when a venue thread was first created that I would prefer to have it in AC or MSG for true boxing fans but that Vegas means more money due to hosting fee's.

I also know the glove skinning thing you brought up before is that what you mean? or are you saying that its easier to fix the judges in Vegas?

[Addison]

I honestly dont know whats up....seriously not trying to be funny can you expand.

On the Vegas venue I said it way before when a venue thread was first created that I would prefer to have it in AC or MSG for true boxing fans but that Vegas means more money due to hosting fee's.

I also know the glove skinning thing you brought up before is that what you mean? or are you saying that its easier to fix the judges in Vegas?

No, no skinning talk today. We're talking about where Cotto does damage. How he goes about "knocking out" his opponents.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

HaHA.. Damn, I have made soo many posts about this.. Ok, let's start from scratch and give the thread starter a few posts. First of all; tell me about alot of those stoppages. We don't have to worry about the cans in the very beginning - they don't count. How did he stop Judah, Quintana, even Urkal? Tell me about those "KO's."

Well the Judah Fight was a total destruction, and he made Quintana Quit with one Punch to the liver, And he made Urkals corner throw in the Towel!

[Addison]

Well the Judah Fight was a total destruction, and he made Quintana Quit with one Punch to the liver, And he made Urkals corner throw in the Towel!

Right, he wreaked havoc on there bodies. All over.

Here's a post I made on the subject.

Cotto isn't just hitting his opponents in the abs, sides, and traditional target areas.. As I've said on numerous occasions he's striking all areas of the body; hips, spine, shoulders - joint areas, neck, back.. And even occasionally lower if he's really feeling frisky.. The only thing Cotto doesn't hit when he's in Body Destroyer mode are the soles of his opponents feet..

Any acupuncturist or incarcerated member of the Mexican mafia can tell you there are several dozen "kill points" or "sick points" on the human body. Points of vulnerability that can cause all sorts of reactions including nausea, motion sickness, blurred vision, loss of balance, diarrhea, loss of muscle coordination, numbness/tingling, sudden weakness.. You hit a guy in the right places enough times and you can turn him into a full blown AIDS patient in a matter of minutes.

He's a strong, penetrating puncher no doubt - but where he's hitting his opposition has more to do with the bended knees, and scrunched up faces, than the mechanics of his delivery.

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[Addison]

Well the Judah Fight was a total destruction, and he made Quintana Quit with one Punch to the liver, And he made Urkals corner throw in the Towel!

BTW, that Quintana shot went up his ass and came out his mouth. That wasn't to the liver. That was an enema.

[Left2body]

No, no skinning talk today. We're talking about where Cotto does damage. How he goes about "knocking out" his opponents.

How does change of venue mean something is up then? I mean there using the same gloves they would've used in NYC or the Staple Center.

The Cotto power thing is kinda based on perspective. I mean most people believe Margarito has good power but he uses 100+ punches a round to wear out his opponents. Cotto isn't quite as drastic as that but he has good heavy handed power just not that one punch amazing power that a Cintron or Judah have.

But I believe Cotto is one of the more powerful WW's out there. I would have Cintron, Berto, Judah, Mosley all ahead of him.

I would put him above Clottey, Williams, Quintana, Margarito, Collazo, PBF or the 147lb Hatton. Not too bad on the power tree.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Right, he wreaked havoc on there bodies. All over.

Here's a post I made on the subject.



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So your Trying to say that he is a Power , but he is not a one punch Ko Guy.?is that is your point I will agree on that. But he still a A power Puncher

[Addison]

Another post on the subject:

Dude, Cotto might not have one-punch KO power, but his hands are very heavy. Quintana said in his post-fight interview that Cotto didn't hit as hard as he expected, but look at how his face looked after the fight (it looked like he fought 12 hard rounds, not 4 and a half!). You can also look at other fighter's faces, like Abdullaev, Branco, Malignaggi, and Judah. Their faces looked BEAT UP! Hell, he dislocated Branco's shoulder with his punches.

No, Cotto will not take Mosley's head off with one punch, but he will break him down, constantly applying pressure and punishment, until Mosley's age gets the better of him.

Cotto KO9

You can put it that way..

Still a little bit of an oversimplification IMO.


I think where Cotto lands his punches as much as how hard he lands them has to do with the exhausted, battered opponents.

This is why we're getting this "optical illusion" stuff people including Shane Mosley have referred to. There's a reason.

He's not getting those specific results because he has reinvented the punch.

Miguel has is own signature method of assault.

He beats up the whole body. That is what takes the life out of em.


Hit someone in the right places and the adrenaline wears off.

Meanwhile Cotto's coming in for another 5 punch waxing.. Those repeated shots to the chest, shoulders, back, hip bone, ventricular passageway, stomach, neck, scrotum, and side of the head add up.

Most fighters strike within the traditional target areas of the head, abdomen, and sides.

Most fighters are used to being hit in these target areas. Only.


Miguel punches places these guys have never been hit before.


However, the force of the impact is not exceptional..

And he is reasonably heavy handed.


You mention Branco?

Branco was a rag doll at the point Cotto caused that injury. He was sucking air looking like he had to take a ****. Cotto had worked alot of sensitive areas before he busted Branco's shoulder and loosened his body up.

Cotto didn't break Gianluca's shoulder clean with one shot out of nowhere.

[Addison]

So your Trying to say that he is a Power , but he is not a one punch Ko Guy.?is that is your point I will agree on that. But he still a A power Puncher

Yeah, he's strong and can generate some good force but in terms of raw power? No, I don't have an evidence of that. You read that right, that thing I posted? Look, if I hit you in your back, hips, shoulders, ect, enough times it's going to **** you up regardless of how much power I have.

[Addison]

How does change of venue mean something is up then? I mean there using the same gloves they would've used in NYC or the Staple Center.

The Cotto power thing is kinda based on perspective. I mean most people believe Margarito has good power but he uses 100+ punches a round to wear out his opponents. Cotto isn't quite as drastic as that but he has good heavy handed power just not that one punch amazing power that a Cintron or Judah have.

But I believe Cotto is one of the more powerful WW's out there. I would have Cintron, Berto, Judah, Mosley all ahead of him.

I would put him above Clottey, Williams, Quintana, Margarito, Collazo, PBF or the 147lb Hatton. Not too bad on the power tree.

This is where timing and reality have their usual influence. Let me ask you something first; do you think Top Rank could have gotten Nevada to allow them to use 8 oz. gloves back in the summer of 07' when they negotiated the terms for the Shane Mosley fight?