On Antonio Margarito...

[warp1432]

How can Margarito be a top 3 Welterweight? He's lucky to make the top 5.

Floyd
Cotto
Shane
Quintana
Williams

Would be my top 5. Or maybe Quintana at 6 and Margarito at 5 moving Wiliams up to 4. Moving him up to the 3rd best just because he beat Golden Johnson and Kermit Cintron do NOT make you top 3.

Antonio Margarito is the most overrated fighter ever. I will give him credit though for having good technical skills while infighting, but that's it. He has a pretty ****ty resume too.

[ANDROID_DOES]

I can think of better looking performances than the Clottey fight. I agree, Margarito deservingly so won that fight, but for the first quarter of the fight he was giving the game plan of how to beat Margarito. Catch him between punches, move your feet around, reset and repeat.

And on Clottey, I don't care how big people are on him, he will be a top contender for years but that is it. He isn't a world-beater by any stretch. He is what Margarito is, a good, solid fighter who is what he is.

I agree, Margarito makes up for a lot of his weaknesses, but doing that against guys like Cintron and the such is not the same as doing it against Cotto or Mayweather. Against guys like that your flaws will not be as marginalized as they are against guys like Cintron.

Margarito has been able to get by on his flaws so far, but he hasn't fought anyone so far.

I never said Cotto is God. I feel he came up a lot tougher and against a better assortment of opponents to prepare him to be a more complete fighter.

That's a respectable post but you and other keep bringing up "who has he beat" you can't blame him for that! He has looked for the bigger fights but hasn't been able to and them. You have to give him that descrediting him for that is unfair and really doesnt prove nothing. YOu don't know how he is going to do agianst a top opponent untill he does it. Cotto's resume is better but by no means impressive. he held on for a win against an old mosley and got rocked a few times by judah. He overcame judah to kill him but we all know judah was shot after the baldi fight. How much credit can you really give cotto for those two wins especially the sugar shane fight in which some people thought he lost and was alot closer then it should have been if you want to consider cotto great. Margarito is going to force cotto to fight. IM not buying this bs cotto will outbox him since when has cotto been this great boxer ala an improved jab?? He came up with pressure wearing down the opponents and body shots. It would be a mistake to change doing what made you what you are because you feel you will be outbattled in that area. it's going to be a slugfest. I dont like the idea of putting margarito down and counting him out based on "who has he faught" he searched the big fights wasnt able to land them. he offered shane, and floyd a fight years ago. you cant blame him for not getting a big fight and use that as the reason as to why he is not that good. He's style will give anyone trouble and im expecting fireworks when him and cotto face off.

[nozorok]

You would think that someone like me who has been a credentialed pundit for 2 years now in the sweet science would know more about boxing, wouldn't you?would I?

Does that mean you are no longer waiting on tables?

[Super_Lightweight]

Eh, no. Margarito has done as much as Quintana at 147. Quintana got smoked by Cotto which would never happen to Tony. Mosley just lost, and is old and fading. Only Cotto and Floyd are CLEARLY above Margarito at 147. The others are just arguable.

He's 3rd best because of his entire sheet, not his last two wins. If we were going on last two fights Williams and Mosley would BOTH be out of the top.

[supermandathoe]

for the first time in BS u are the first guy who's making mi sig.

He is a Cotto hater because he thinks Marg will TKO Cotto? You HAVE to be the most sensative user of all time.

[warp1432]

You can blame him for that actually. He should have offered Winky more money insted of 4 million. He was #2 p4p at the time and offering him 4 less then Floyd is ******.

I don't think he ever made an offer to Zab Judah. Never fought Collazo (who was willing to fight him). Margarito could have done more with his resume. A LOT MORE.

[ANDROID_DOES]

How can Margarito be a top 3 Welterweight? He's lucky to make the top 5.

Floyd
Cotto
Shane
Quintana
Williams

Would be my top 5. Or maybe Quintana at 6 and Margarito at 5 moving Wiliams up to 4. Moving him up to the 3rd best just because he beat Golden Johnson and Kermit Cintron do NOT make you top 3.

Antonio Margarito is the most overrated fighter ever. I will give him credit though for having good technical skills while infighting, but that's it. He has a pretty ****ty resume too.

your logic is pretty much **** since quintana's only win is against williams who's only win is a controversial one against margarito who hasnt "beaten anyone"
Margarito would beat shane, quintana, and williams in a rematch if you disagree then im sorry that's your opinion but i think you would the odd ball to think he cant.

[Mr. Ryan]

Margarito is a top 3 welterweight in the world. Period.

Whether that means he deserves you on his 'bandwagon' I don't know. But he does deserve your respect.

You have to put Cotto up there, who has wins over Judah, Quintana and Mosley above Margarito. Then Quintana beat the man who beat Margarito, Paul Williams. Mayweather is the recognized Ring Champion so that would push Margarito out of the top 3 I'd guess. Correct me if there is a flaw in that logic.

[warp1432]

Eh, no. Margarito has done as much as Quintana at 147. Quintana got smoked by Cotto which would never happen to Tony. Mosley just lost, and is old and fading. Only Cotto and Floyd are CLEARLY above Margarito at 147. The others are just arguable.

He's 3rd best because of his entire sheet, not his last two wins. If we were going on last two fights Williams and Mosley would BOTH be out of the top.

But Williams beat Margarito. You have to him higher at Welter. I don't care whether or not Cotto smoked Quintana earlier. He beat Williams who beat Margarito. You have to put him above Williams, who you have to put above Margarito.

Also Mosley had a VERY close bout with Cotto so that puts him still in the top 3.

Just because you got smoked eariler, doesn't mean you can't have a career turn a round and that's what Carlos Quintana is

[Mr. Ryan]

Does that mean you are no longer waiting on tables?

I did that for 3 months while trying to find work in a new state

BTW, it's a nice place to meet hot chicks. You should look into that.