It's not Cotto's style that could beat Floyd, but Cotto's intelligence

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  • Fox McCloud
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    #41
    Originally posted by 2501
    exactly what the **** im saying. these so called "boxing fans" dont even care to read the ****ing post. they are already programmed with what to post as soon as they see the names "Cotto" and "Floyd" in a thread title.
    Literally, by arguing against you, and if Cotto ends up beating Mayweather, they will have conceded that it was not a fluke.

    Rather than by agreeing with you, which indicates that Cotto only can win IF he has Mayweather's number, like so many other fighters who were thought to be inferior, who got win after win against a guy who was deemed superior (Barkley over Hearns anyone?), now they have indirectly conceded that Cotto is a better fighter, is a better athlete or has a style that is poison to Floyd Mayweather. None of those can really be labeled as a fluke win either.

    Always fun to watch people shoot themselves in the foot.

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    • 2501
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      #42
      Originally posted by DWiens421
      Literally, by arguing against you, and if Cotto ends up beating Mayweather, they will have conceded that it was not a fluke.

      Rather than by agreeing with you, which indicates that Cotto only can win IF he has Mayweather's number, like so many other fighters who were thought to be inferior, who got win after win against a guy who was deemed superior (Barkley over Hearns anyone?), now they have indirectly conceded that Cotto is a better fighter, is a better athlete or has a style that is poison to Floyd Mayweather. None of those can really be labeled as a fluke win either.

      Always fun to watch people shoot themselves in the foot.
      objective and insightful as always Dwiezzle.

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      • BMWM3P
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        #43
        Originally posted by 2501
        If Floyd ever got bit on the **** by a Brown Recluse and you were the ONLY one around, would you suck the venom out? yeah...i think you would.
        He would suck it even if he wasn't bit.

        And I think you're right on point, Cotto ring intelligence is one of the main reasons why I think he will beat Mayweather. He changes stategies from fighter to fighter and at fight night you don't know which Cotto you're getting.

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        • wmute
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          #44
          Originally posted by 2501
          Enough with the Floyd fans claiming that Cotto fans are saying Cotto's style will beat Floyd. I've only read this once or twice. Anyone that has followed Cotto will tell you that Cotto is one of the smartest fighters out there and IF there IS a way Cotto can pull out a victory over Floyd, it wont be because of the style he's known for, but for the intelligence he has shown when something isn't working for him. He has displayed his versatility many times in the past when his pressure offense hasnt worked for him. His most recent example was Mosley. Why do those who claim Cotto is too one dimensional to be effective against Floyd never bring up the Mosley fight?

          If you are a Boxing fan, you will understand the message in this post, if you arent a BOXING fan, you will only see this as a "Cotto will beat Floyd" thread because you wont even read it.
          OMG, I am not the only one.

          After the Mosley fight everyone was like, “look at Cotto's boxing skills, look at his speed, wow, PBF is getting Pwned”. What I thought and posted multiple times was: he (and his corner) can make adjustments (and stick to them), that's going to make it interesting.

          But in all honesty, IF Cotto beats Mayweather, the main reason will be the 10 pounds of muscle and bones that separate them, THEN comes the rest. (Similar to Margarito, except there are more pounds and less of the “rest”) Which is kind of sad, it would be better if Mayweather lost to someone his own size, someone humble possibly, and someone just as good.

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          • -Antonio-
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            #45
            Jesus do you guys even read the post?

            Cotto's ring intelligance will be a huge factor if he does beat Floyd.

            FACT.

            Quit your bitching.

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            • Vladimir303
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              #46
              Cotto's Ring intelligence will have nothing to do with beating Floyd.


              If that's all there is to it then Floyd already has this fight won.

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                #47
                Originally posted by vladimir303
                Cotto's Ring intelligence will have nothing to do with beating Floyd.


                If that's all there is to it then Floyd already has this fight won.
                Yeah because it really helped Hatton when he just relied on agression and quick feet. Corrales really did well when he tried to rely on strength and power.

                Get the **** out of here.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by -Antonio-
                  Yeah because it really helped Hatton when he just relied on agression and quick feet. Corrales really did well when he tried to rely on strength and power.

                  Get the **** out of here.
                  Agreed.

                  You don't think Castillo's success in the first fight had anything to do with tactics? Did Castillo just come forward at Floyd and do well because of that? Or did he always step in with his jab to get on the inside as much as possible, and cut off the ring so Floyd would be on the ropes frequently?

                  Castillo's ring intelligence set his ass way apart from both Hatton and Jesus Chavez in their performance in the ring when they fought Mayweather.

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                  • sunny31
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                    #49
                    You don't think Castillo's success in the first fight had anything to do with tactics? Did Castillo just come forward at Floyd and do well because of that? Or did he always step in with his jab to get on the inside as much as possible, and cut off the ring so Floyd would be on the ropes frequently?

                    Castillo's ring intelligence set his ass way apart from both Hatton and Jesus Chavez in their performance in the ring when they fought Mayweather.[/QUOTE]

                    Good post, hatton said castillo laid down the blueprint for him, but castillo fought a much smarter fight in both fights against floyd. Hatton and chavez performances and tactics were almost identical.

                    The more I see cotto fight, the more obvious it is to me that him and mayweather are each others legacy fight. A few years ago I would have said floyd was streets ahead but now I think cotto is his equal. I believe this thread makes sense as cotto's inteligence will help him, but he will need more than that, good thing he has a hell of a lot more than that.

                    I think his jab, inteligence, speed, workrate, and power could help him beat floyd, whether he will or not remains to be seen, but im just like every other boxing fan, this fight is number 1 on my list of fights I would love to see.

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                      #50
                      maybe... but i think if they fight its gonna be more of mayweather being stuoid and giving the fight away by being too defensive...god knows cotto would get the nod oscar didnt....and the "Experts"will say it was a clear win for cotto .....

                      im not saying cotto can't win using his skills though...both have weapons to win the fight.....

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