You can't put Calzaghe in the same class as a prime Roy Jones Jr.

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  • TommyGunn.
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    #71
    Benn collins and Eubank have all admitted Calzaghe was a much better fighter than they were, while he was primed.

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    • Addison
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      #72
      This was inevitable. Hopkins got degraded so completely throughout this episode that Calzaghe is actually looked at with less regard than he was before. Truly a shame.. Some people might be able to question Joe's abilities as a fighter, but they'll need actual evidence to question him as a winner and someone who has a burning desire to succeed at all costs.

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      • werewolf
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        #73
        "You can't put Calzaghe in the same class as a prime Roy Jones Jr."


        Looks like all the little resident ******s are throwing ahissy fit because another one of their precious hyped up Black BOYS bit the dust, despite the best efforts of his soul sister dressed up in a judge suit.




        ww

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        • supermandathoe
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          #74
          Originally posted by Wiley Hyena
          RJJ's prime was inhuman, especially when he was fighting that long string of bums. Calzaghe's prime is right now and I would classify it as the perfect combination of mind and body, totally integrated into one very relentless fighting machine.

          I'll take Calzaghe over Jones...then and now.

          My goodness you came back and are trying your hardest to restore your spot as most ignorant and stubborn user on the board.

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          • abadger
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            #75
            It depends what you mean by "the same class". If you are talking about who would beat who, then you are only really talking hypotheticals, and there isn't really much to be said that is not just opinion. If you are talking skills, I agree Roy was incredible, and was more skilled than Joe in most departments. Joe is incredibly skilled too though, and if any boxer might be in the same 'class' as Jones, then Calzaghe is that man. Being in the same 'class' does not mean that Joe would beat a prime Roy, just that such a fight would be good to see.

            If you are talking achievements, both have achieved things few have done before, Roy with his multiple weight classes and Joe with his long reign, undefeated career and many succesful defences. Could Joe have done what Roy did? Probably not. Could Roy have done what Joe has done? He didn't.

            In discussing these two fighters you are talking about the two boxers, along with Hopkins who have achieved the most in the SMW - LHW range over the last decade. Are they the same? No. Did they match each other achievement for achievement? No. Are they in the same class? Indisputably, yes. They are each amongst the very select list of boxers who can be meaningfully compared with the other.

            That's why they are going to be fighting before too long.
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            Last edited by abadger; 03-20-2011, 11:50 PM.

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            • Fozz1
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              #76
              Joe is a very good fighter,regardless of the "look at the bums he's fought" argument -which every top level fighter gets hit with - you cannot go 45-0 without having some skill.

              As good as he is, he would have been no match for Jones IMO,may be competitive for a few but jones would run away with it.

              There has also been alot of of Joe has an iron chin being said lately, its far from that but he is very good defensively a hard to hit clean - if Hopkins can drop Joe with a single shot a faster more acurate and much more powerful Jones would dust Joe if he got him clean - but its a big IF.

              Jones by UD - then and now if it happens

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              • Pullcounter
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                #77
                Originally posted by KingTito
                I've been reading comparisons, and I'll be honest. I don't think you can compare the two. A prime roy is just on another level, but that's my opinion. What do you guys think?
                u are correct. in his prime rjj was much more exciting, explosive, and naturally gifted than calzaghe.

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                • dustybin
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                  #78
                  Why not just wait and see what happens if and when they fight.There is only 3 years between them so if Jones is in a different class he shouldn't have no problem overcoming the 3 years.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by dustybin
                    Why not just wait and see what happens if and when they fight.There is only 3 years between them so if Jones is in a different class he shouldn't have no problem overcoming the 3 years.

                    Good point.
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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by dustybin
                      Why not just wait and see what happens if and when they fight.There is only 3 years between them so if Jones is in a different class he shouldn't have no problem overcoming the 3 years.
                      RJJ is shot and Calzaghe beating RJJ at this stage of roy's career is meaningless.

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