You can't put Calzaghe in the same class as a prime Roy Jones Jr.

[Knicksman20]

Calzaghe is past his prime. You really need to watch him in his prime. He was already over the hill when he fought Lacy. Calzaghe in his prime was incredible, but Roy Jones is really just too good.

As much as I love Calzaghe, no amount of hand speed and no amount of craftieness is enough to offset the pure physical advantages that a prime Roy Jones possessed.

Not only was Roy the most incredible physical specimen ever, he was one of the smartest fighters to ever step in the ring.

It would be a great fight, but Roy would take this.

Great post. Calzaghe mania is at an all time high on this board but this post puts things back into perspective. While Cal is a good fighter, Roy is an ATG & the kind of fighter that doesn't come around very often. To quote the Ice Man John Scully: "At 168 Roy was Superman." Roy was just on another level at 168 that Cal will never reach. Comparing the two is just unfair.

[dustybin]

Great post. Calzaghe mania is at an all time high on this board but this post puts things back into perspective. While Cal is a good fighter, Roy is an ATG & the kind of fighter that doesn't come around very often. To quote the Ice Man John Scully: "At 168 Roy was Superman." Roy was just on another level at 168 that Cal will never reach. Comparing the two is just unfair.

Your imagining Jones fighting top ten guys.I seem to remember a very competitive fight against Hopkins and Jones struggling in both Tarver fights before he was KO'd.

[celt80]

calzaghe and jones in their primes would of been a cracker of a fight. I think jones would of got a close decision. he would of known he was fighting a great fighter by the end of it though.

Roy was outstanding in every department power, reflexes, speed and footwork. I think the best way for joe to fight Roy would be to the straighten up his southpaw punches like he did against hopkins, try to catch him with a left over the top to back him up then flurry. This would look impressive to the judges

[Knicksman20]

Your imagining Jones fighting top ten guys.I seem to remember a very competitive fight against Hopkins and Jones struggling in both Tarver fights before he was KO'd.

While Jones competition wasn't stellar, his comp wasn't nearly as bad as some have made them within the last several years or so. No he didn't struggle against Hopkins. He deafeated him in a lackluster fight when both fighters were up & comers. And the Tarver fights? If you are a true boxing fan you'd know Roy was well out of his prime by the time he fought Tarver the first time around. And correcting you again Roy fought Tarver three times; beating him by decision, losing by TKO, & a decision loss. Stop acting as if you know boxing when it's clear from your post you don't know as much as you think.

[Scott9945]

If the two swapped resumes, it might change you Calzaghe fans perspective. If that '0' means that much to you, do you think he would still have it if he had faced Roys opponents. I don't think so.

Prime Roy Jones is boxing. Put that man in any era, and he would come out on top. He's had his fair share of bums, but who hasn't?

I think Calzaghe would mix in well with prime Benn, Eubank, Mclellan, Collins, possibly Toney.......but Jones Jr? That's laughable.

So what Roy Jones opponents do you think would have beaten Joe?

[abadger]

So what Roy Jones opponents do you think would have beaten Joe?

I'd like to hear that too.
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[supermandathoe]

I'd like to hear that too.

James Toney for one.

[Pugilistic™]

i have to agree, joe would get beat by UD or late tko if he faced a prime jones

[K-DOGG]

Ya know, the weird thing is I agree; but kind of disagree at the same time.

I, for one, think that Jones was undoubtedly one of the most naturally gifted athletes I've ever seen, bar none. However, if you compare his record with Calzaghe in who they fought as much as who they didn't, they're not that far apart....oddly enough.

Sure, Jones beat Toney, Hopkins, Hill, Griffith, and a few others; but he never stepped in the ring with Nunn, Benn, McClellan, or Eubank. Because of tragic circumstances, I can forgive the McClellan and even the Benn fight(s); but the others are kind of ...eh-eh. "Why didn't they happen".

Yes, I know there's a variety of reasons and "he-said/she-said"; but the fact is there were unanswered questions concerning competition. And elite competition at that.

That fact alone closes the bias gap between the two, IMHO.


Jones was more gifted; but competition-wise, only a slight edge....and style-wise.....well, who knows how the two would have really matched up.


Just a thought.

[BrooklynBomber]

Ya know, the weird thing is I agree; but kind of disagree at the same time.

I, for one, think that Jones was undoubtedly one of the most naturally gifted athletes I've ever seen, bar none. However, if you compare his record with Calzaghe in who they fought as much as who they didn't, they're not that far apart....oddly enough.

Sure, Jones beat Toney, Hopkins, Hill, Griffith, and a few others; but he never stepped in the ring with Nunn, Benn, McClellan, or Eubank. Because of tragic circumstances, I can forgive the McClellan and even the Benn fight(s); but the others are kind of ...eh-eh. "Why didn't they happen".

Yes, I know there's a variety of reasons and "he-said/she-said"; but the fact is there were unanswered questions concerning competition. And elite competition at that.

That fact alone closes the bias gap between the two, IMHO.


Jones was more gifted; but competition-wise, only a slight edge....and style-wise.....well, who knows how the two would have really matched up.


Just a thought.

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