What Is This? The Amateurs?

[tyson]

I don't think that this affected the scoring at all. It certainly didn't in Woods-Tarver, and Tarver did it a lot more than Hopkins.



Instead of accepting that this kinda thing is subjective, and that people have a different opinion to you, you act as if your opinion is superior by claiming that it is the result of "a highly trained eye" and because of "even higher knowledge".

At least your post about wanting to be gang****** by men with big ****s wasn't condescending.

What the ****, dude?

You have a big ****? Bring some friends

I didn't see the fight. It was a general post about boxing today. Had nothing to do with this particular fight.

[Clegg]

i don't give a dump what nationality he is. only brits care about that ****.

Yeah, non-UK posters never make posts about "UK bums" and "Euro****".

[K-Nan]

Ok, so I run in like a girl and windwill over and over again and that's scoring? Props to Calzaghe for determination but he's no where near the fighter Bernard Hopkins is. That was beyond ugly.

Hopkins was the one who made it ugly. But I was seriously dissapointed in the way that Joe went about fighting Hopkins. He honestly took his wild, cuffing flurry slaps to a new level tonight.

[Miburo]

Hopkins was the one who made it ugly. But I was seriously dissapointed in the way that Joe went about fighting Hopkins. He honestly took his wild, cuffing flurry slaps to a new level tonight.

Agreed, I was more disappointed by Calzaghe's performance than any other thing I have to say about the fight (it perhaps trumps any praise of Hopkins, deservedly or not).

[Addison]

Hopkins was the one who made it ugly. But I was seriously dissapointed in the way that Joe went about fighting Hopkins. He honestly took his wild, cuffing flurry slaps to a new level tonight.

Ugly in that way, but I meant ugly, ugly ugly.

They both were doing that. Calzaghe wasn't letting Hopkins unload either.

[Addison]

Agreed, I was more disappointed by Calzaghe's performance than any other thing I have to say about the fight (it perhaps trumps any praise of Hopkins, deservedly or not).

Calzaghe was absolutely gross. I agree.

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[warp1432]

I don't really have a problem with Joe's slapping, it's just I don't think they should count as much when hitting the back or the shoulder's of Bernard when Bernard his hitting him in the face with 2 good clean shots.

That's what made this fight so close, imo. Calzaghe didn't appear to be landing in the middle rounds and Hopkins would gut him when clinching and get a couple good clean shots.

People scoring focus too much on flurries. It's disapointing. For general scores it should have been anywhere from 114-113 to 115-112 for a Joe win. Anything higher then that is disgusting.

[Miburo]

I don't really have a problem with Joe's slapping, it's just I don't think they should count as much when hitting the back or the shoulder's of Bernard when Bernard his hitting him in the face with 2 good clean shots.

That's what made this fight so close, imo. Calzaghe didn't appear to be landing in the middle rounds and Hopkins would gut him when clinching and get a couple good clean shots.

People scoring focus too much on flurries. It's disapointing. For general scores it should have been anywhere from 114-113 to 115-112 for a Joe win. Anything higher then that is disgusting.

Exactly, this fight confused me a great deal in regards to how most fans seem to score fights. It's not like he was throwing those Leonard round-stealing flurries in there (which look good deflected or not), they looked terrible due to a combination of slapping with the punches not landing cleanly/at all.

[Addison]

I don't really have a problem with Joe's slapping, it's just I don't think they should count as much when hitting the back or the shoulder's of Bernard when Bernard his hitting him in the face with 2 good clean shots.

That's what made this fight so close, imo. Calzaghe didn't appear to be landing in the middle rounds and Hopkins would gut him when clinching and get a couple good clean shots.

People scoring focus too much on flurries. It's disapointing. For general scores it should have been anywhere from 114-113 to 115-112 for a Joe win. Anything higher then that is disgusting.

And those weren't even your typical, traditional flurries mind you. He was flurrying two inches from Hopkins chest, hitting the back and shoulders in the clinches, and getting awarded rounds. Outrageous.