Dawson beat Glen PERIOD No controversy no nothing

[slicksouthpaw16]

If Dawson is keeping his distance and boxing, then how will Johnson land those counter punches? Watch when Dawson boxes and uses his foot speed to move around the ring and flurry's, Johnson just follows him around the ring. Eddie Mustafa said himself that Dawson was boxing Johnson easily and that he could do it all night. Dawson wasn't landing everything upstairs so he would go to the body to score. He found a home for his straight left hand as Johnson came in. It was when Dawson tried to muscle Johnson and use his strength is when he would run into trouble. Dawson is used to having his way in the ring and Johnson did not allow that to happen. I seen in an interview with fightfan.com, Dawson stated that he was going to show Johnson that he was the bigger man and out muscle him. I though that he was just saying that to be ****y but apparently he wasn't. Not only did he fight the wrong fight, but he didn't have the proper game plan and came in over confident. Johnson was able to capitalize on this because the inside is where Johnson lives. That was the first time that Dawson has ever fought on the inside as well. Dawson is mainly a great technical pure boxer that has a full repertoire of punches in his arsenal. He is used to going to the body and quickly coming back out, the way he did with Eric Harding and Adamek, not staying there and abandoning his gifts. If Dawson would have fought that way against Adamek, then he would have been knocked out.

[TheGreatA]

I do not see how Dawson is fighting any differently against Adamek.

The only difference in this fight is that Adamek is not backing Dawson up, he gives respect to Dawson's power and does not have the same experience and defensive capabilities (when coming forward) that Johnson does.


Now in the 10th round Adamek comes out differently. He had to because he had probably lost all of the rounds up to this point.

Adamek takes some shots to get close (he is not nearly as efficient as Glen Johnson is while doing this) but he manages to pressure Dawson to the ropes and lands one punch that drops Dawson to the canvas.

Chad fights off Adamek on the inside at 05:10-05:30, something he could not do to Glen Johnson.

Dawson made the same mistake agaisnt Adamek in the 10th round as he did against Glen Johnson in the 10th round. Boxers make mistakes under pressure, especially young fighters like Dawson. He will never have an easy fight with Glen Johnson.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Dawson fought very differently in the Adamek fight and its apparent. He stayed on the outside and didn't abandon his boxing ability. He did not try to muscle Adamek or push him back, the way he did with Johnson. He was trying to knock Johnson out early and trying to slow him down with body shots so he could soften him up for the later rounds if he couldn't. When he fought Adamek, he took his time, picked his spots, went to the body quick and got back. Dawson did not fight as close and he didn't fight on the inside with him. When Dawson would box Johnson the way he was suppose to, then he would put those rounds in the bag. He would be up on his toes, boxing, flurrying, not being trapped on the ropes and not fighting in close quarters.

Adamek didn't change his strategy at all in the 10th round. Dawson was winded and Adamek caught him when he was being passive. Dawson took him for granted and let his guard down. Dawson was winning that round pretty easily as well. Adamek was not applying any ''pressure'' at all. He applied pressure in the last 2 rounds when he thought that he had Dawson hurt. Also, i think Dawson beats Johnson very convincingly if they rematch (which i think will happen after Tarver). If Dawson beat Johnson by fighting the wrong game plan, then what will happen when hes on his A game and not abandoning his natural gifts and advantages?

[The Hammer]

I rewatched the fight last night on TFN and once again, I saw a close but clear decision win for Dawson, 115-113.

I can see why Johnson has so many supporters and fans, same reason as a lot of people like Margarito. He never stops coming forward and attacking and he has an iron chin. However, as far as ring movement and boxing skills are concerned, Dawson is by far the more athletic and talented fighter.

I do agree that Dawson should give Johnson a rematch, but after he fights his mandatory oponent, the winner of Diaconu vs. Henry. I believe Dawson would go 12 rounds without being hurt and win a wider decision over Johnson in a second fight.

[Mizzou]

I think Dawson won by a sliver. When I watch fights I think I might weigh power punches/flush shots more than alot of judges. One things for sure it was a helluva fight.

[TheGreatA]

Dawson fought very differently in the Adamek fight and its apparent. He stayed on the outside and didn't abandon his boxing ability. He did not try to muscle Adamek or push him back, the way he did with Johnson. He was trying to knock Johnson out early and trying to slow him down with body shots so he could soften him up for the later rounds if he couldn't. When he fought Adamek, he took his time, picked his spots, went to the body quick and got back. Dawson did not fight as close and he didn't fight on the inside with him. When Dawson would box Johnson the way he was suppose to, then he would put those rounds in the bag. He would be up on his toes, boxing, flurrying, not being trapped on the ropes and not fighting in close quarters.

Adamek didn't change his strategy at all in the 10th round. Dawson was winded and Adamek caught with his when he was being passive. Dawson took him for granted and let his guard down. Dawson was winning that round pretty easily as well. Adamek was not applying any ''pressure'' at all. He applied pressure in the last 2 rounds when he thought that he had Dawson hurt. Also, i think Dawson beats Johnson very convincingly if they rematch (which i think will happen after Tarver). If Dawson beat Johnson by fighting the wrong game plan, then what will happen when hes on his A game and not abandoning his natural gifts and advantages?

Any time a fighter is going forward to cut off the ring he is applying pressure.
In the rounds before the 10th, Adamek was the one going backwards but in the 10th round, he was the one coming forward and Dawson was going backwards.
Watch what Adamek does at 01:10-01:35, he is following Dawson around and times Dawson's movements with that right hand.

Dawson went to the ropes and got caught.
He was getting tired, he was losing focus and he was also going backwards. When Dawson made Adamek back up, he had his best moments. He could not do that do Glen Johnson.

You are giving too little credit for Glen.
IMO it was Johnson who made Dawson abandon those natural gifts and advantages by pressuring him and making him fight.


Dawson says he fought according to his gameplan and executed it well.
He says he wanted to outbox Glen Johnson, pile up the points, because 'everybody knows you are not going to knock Glen Johnson out'.

[slicksouthpaw16]

Any time a fighter is going forward to cut off the ring he is applying pressure.
In the rounds before the 10th, Adamek was the one going backwards but in the 10th round, he was the one coming forward and Dawson was going backwards.
Watch what Adamek does at 01:10-01:35, he is following Dawson around and times Dawson's movements with that right hand.

Dawson went to the ropes and got caught.
He was getting tired, he was losing focus and he was also going backwards. When Dawson made Adamek back up, he had his best moments. He could not do that do Glen Johnson.

So Dawson being fatigued and having his hands down at the time have anything to with the knockdown? He was not expecting the punch and was being passive. After the fight in the Interview, he stated that he was not hurt and Adamek caught him when was sleeping. It was a desperate punch from a desperate fighter that was behind every round and on every score card. Adamek was only able to do that when Dawson was winded. He brought more pressure in the last two rounds and Dawson was able handle it. Why? Because he was expecting it and was actually woke. No, Adamek is not Johnson but again, when he would box, then he would have Johnson completely nullified. Tarver had Johnson nullified when he would keep his distance as well. Johnson only has his moments against these pure boxers when they are fighting on the inside and allowing Johnson to get in there.

You are giving too little credit for Glen.
IMO it was Johnson who made Dawson abandon those natural gifts and advantages by pressuring him and making him fight.

Glen Johnson is a very good underrated fighter and that was a hell of a showing for a guy thats 39 years of age. But like i have said, it was more of what Dawson didn't do rather than what Johnson did. Dawson abandoned his tools because even before the fight, he had the wrong idea of how to approach this fight. In this video, he states that his plan is to show Johnson that he is the bigger man and he will not allow himself to be out hustled. Dawson is used to having his way in the ring and Johnson as well as other pressure fighters will not allow that to happen. He needs to stick to the great boxing talent that we all know he has.

Dawson says he fought according to his gameplan and executed it well.
He says he wanted to outbox Glen Johnson, pile up the points, because 'everybody knows you are not going to knock Glen Johnson out'.

Thats just Dawson being Dawson. He has too much pride to admit that he fought the wrong fight and he shouldn't have been hit with that many punches, especially since he is known for being a defensive fighter anyway. Did you think that he executed his game plan well and he should have taken that many punches? That was the worse that his face has ever looked in his entire career. He didn't fight the right fight and he indeed tried to knock Johnson out. If he didn't, the why did he go to Johnson's body early in attempt to take away his wind? He was trying to stop Johnson from accumulation. In an interview that i read on *********.com, he said that from rounds 6 on, he would be backing Johnson up.

[BmoreBrawler]

I had dawson winning too when I counted all the punches he landed on Glens Gloves. So get your squinty eyes fixed

I didnt see the fight, but let me tell you that you'll never win an argument on Boxingscene like that because "not actually landing punches" is an unheard of vein of thinking here(no joke).