Mosley: "Cotto Barely Finished The Fight"

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  • Addison
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    #41
    Originally posted by KingTito
    Miguel Cotto's boxing ability is underrated at times. What? Just because he decides to box and not pressure someone at all times, that makes him a coward? Well, I don't agree with that. Even while he was boxing and Mosley was coming after him, he still engaged and landed some beautiful counter shots. He didn't run. When Mosley got there, Cotto fought back and countered back. Adjustments are made all the time, and Cotto made the adjustment. He was able to outbox Mosley down the stretch. We are so used to Cotto being a nonstop pressure fighter, and he is a pressure fighter, but he can do more than that, and that's a good thing for him and not a good thing for his opponents. Bottom line, he won the fight, and that's that.
    I agree, good post. But although Cotto was still landing some good counterpunches in those final rounds, he did sacrifice the rounds themselves on the scorecards by going into retreat mode. The judges all scored the fight in his favor, but Ring magazine and a plethora of assorted press scored it a draw, or in favor of Mosley. I think The Ring scored it for Mosley initially.

    And this is where the argument of his intelligence, overwhelming need, or cowardice comes full circle. I think Cotto was somewhat damaged at that point, gassed out, and being intelligent by staying away. He could have cost himself the fight however, and I'm sure he would have come forward at least one of those rounds if he was physically capable.

    What he did was smart, but somewhat risky. That's why I think it was smart, because he had to do it. But it was not all calculated.

    Originally posted by Scott9945
    I'd be interested in hearing Cotto's prediction for this fight.
    Indeed, excellent point.

    I know Miguel considered Zab Judah more dangerous at one point.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Addison
      Why does Shane always look like he just woke up now?
      he talks like it too

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        #43
        Originally posted by freedom213
        after having some time to reflect on where the loss to Cotto put him career wise he is probably pretty aggravated about being matched with Judah in a fight that is pretty much being labeled a win or hang em up affair, that has to sting. Combine that with the fact that he trained like a mother ****a for Cotto and in his mind there was no way Cotto was winning that fight, then he did and as you pointed out he is realistically going thru a stage of accepting that he was bested. Add in the fact that a press tour with a ****y as **** Zab Judah doesnt exactly lift your spirits and he has a legitimate reason to be a little unMosley like.
        Excellent points, I concur.

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          #44
          Originally posted by ExecutiveOutlaw
          Post fight interview:

          Max Kellerman: "The last few seconds of the 12th round, you were behaving as thought you had the fight won. Did you think you had the fight won?"

          Cotto: "Yea after the cut, I just pretend to move because I have my, the fight, here in my corner"

          So the fact that he thought he had the fight in the bag, meant he thought he was safely leading. Which imo is the reasoning behind fighting differently in the end
          He did say that. Excellent source material.

          Originally posted by freedom213
          he already said if shane makes it thru the first 5 rounds he will win the fight.
          True, that's right. He did already lay it out. I guess he thought there's a fair chance Judah could get a KO, although Cotto was slightly derogatory and generic in his assesment.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Addison
            I agree, good post. But although Cotto was still landing some good counterpunches in those final rounds, he did sacrifice the rounds themselves on the scorecards by going into retreat mode. The judges all scored the fight in his favor, but Ring magazine and a plethora of assorted press scored it a draw, or in favor of Mosley. I think The Ring scored it for Mosley initially.

            And this is where the argument of his intelligence, overwhelming need, or cowardice comes full circle. I think Cotto was somewhat damaged at that point, gassed out, and being intelligent by staying away. He could have cost himself the fight however, and I'm sure he would have come forward at least one of those rounds if he was physically capable.

            What he did was smart, but somewhat risky. That's why I think it was smart, because he had to do it. But it was not all calculated.



            Indeed, excellent point.

            I know Miguel considered Zab Judah more dangerous at one point.
            those body shots from Mosley took a toll on him for certain and I think Cotto was physically spent having to deal with a guy as strong as Shane. But he won round 11 and round 12 was an even round (debatable)with neither guy having much left nor attempting to do much of anything. Cotto should come out of that fight with a much fuller understanding of his limitations and what it feels like to get to that point.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Addison
              I agree, good post. But although Cotto was still landing some good counterpunches in those final rounds, he did sacrifice the rounds themselves on the scorecards by going into retreat mode. The judges all scored the fight in his favor, but Ring magazine and a plethora of assorted press scored it a draw, or in favor of Mosley. I think The Ring scored it for Mosley initially.

              And this is where the argument of his intelligence, overwhelming need, or cowardice comes full circle. I think Cotto was somewhat damaged at that point, gassed out, and being intelligent by staying away. He could have cost himself the fight however, and I'm sure he would have come forward at least one of those rounds if he was physically capable.

              What he did was smart, but somewhat risky. That's why I think it was smart, because he had to do it. But it was not all calculated.



              Indeed, excellent point.

              I know Miguel considered Zab Judah more dangerous at one point.
              This is the truth right there^^

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                #47
                Originally posted by MikeBrew328
                he talks like it too
                That's why I'm not sure about ol' Shane..

                I still haven't been able to pick a winner for Mosley/Judah.

                In theory Shane should win, but is that even Shane anymore? Who knows..

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                  #48
                  addison what do u think about the 6 ppl who voted yes?

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Addison
                    That's why I'm not sure about ol' Shane..

                    I still haven't been able to pick a winner for Mosley/Judah.

                    In theory Shane should win, but is that even Shane anymore? Who knows..
                    It's hard to pick against Shane though.

                    He carries himself with such confidence and his eyes is always burning with passion.

                    Zab kinda looks like he's in for the ride, knowwhattamsayin?

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by NAPO
                      addison what do u think about the 6 ppl who voted yes?
                      I was expecting no votes yes, so I'm a little surpised.

                      I guess it's fair in a sense though because Cotto was retreating, and we have done a decent job of uncovering the likelihood that Miguel may have been worse off than we could tell by looking at him.

                      Do you feel he was hurt at that point?

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