Mosley: "Cotto Barely Finished The Fight"

[Addison]

It's hard to pick against Shane though.

He carries himself with such confidence and his eyes is always burning with passion.

Zab kinda looks like he's in for the ride, knowwhattamsayin?

True! True!

Well put, brother. Well put!

[NAPO]

I was expecting no votes yes, so I'm a little surpised.

I guess it's fair in a sense though because Cotto was retreating, and we have done a decent job of uncovering the likelihood that Miguel may have been worse off than we could tell by looking at him.

Do you feel he was hurt at that point?

watching the fight a couple of times i felt that miguel seem a bit stunt in the 9th round wasn't that convincing because u saw miguel eating those right hands that were located almost in the temple so i ignored that.but i did felt cotto was stunt in the 9th round but not really hurt.i do believe cotto was fighting backwards because he thought he had the fight in the bag during round 12 because round 11 was all cotto so i believe it was a mistake but at the same time a very interesting plan b.

[Xyei]

Cotto fought a smart fight against Mosely. He clearly won most of the early rounds and then fought in spurts for the rest of the fight. He gambled a little bit but he was right in his judgment. In this fight, Cotto proved that he is much more than a pressure fighter. He showed that he knows how to win a fight, bottom line. If he has to brawl, he'll brawl; if he has to box, he'll box and he did both in the Mosely fight.

[letsgobrady]

Post fight interview:

Max Kellerman: "The last few seconds of the 12th round, you were behaving as thought you had the fight won. Did you think you had the fight won?"

Cotto: "Yea after the cut, I just pretend to move because I have my, the fight, here in my corner"

So the fact that he thought he had the fight in the bag, meant he thought he was safely leading. Which imo is the reasoning behind fighting differently in the end

so what. floyd spinks guzman and alot of other fighters play it safe and try not to take any punisment all the time.cotto has been in other fights where he does more moving and backing up than in his fight with shane,like his fight with abdulaev

[Addison]

watching the fight a couple of times i felt that miguel seem a bit stunt in the 9th round wasn't that convincing because u saw miguel eating those right hands that were located almost in the temple so i ignored that.but i did felt cotto was stunt in the 9th round but not really hurt.i do believe cotto was fighting backwards because he thought he had the fight in the bag during round 12 because round 11 was all cotto so i believe it was a mistake but at the same time a very interesting plan b.

Yes, I agree, good point. ^ Miguel did look in complete control of himself in those late rounds even when he was backing up. He didn't look on the verge of going down or anything. It was an interesting plan b.

And like ExecutiveOutlaw pointed out; Miguel said right after the final bell that he was confident he had won enough rounds, so there's every indication he had control. I think he was being intelligent. Good post.

[KingTito]

I agree, good post. But although Cotto was still landing some good counterpunches in those final rounds, he did sacrifice the rounds themselves on the scorecards by going into retreat mode. The judges all scored the fight in his favor, but Ring magazine and a plethora of assorted press scored it a draw, or in favor of Mosley. I think The Ring scored it for Mosley initially.

And this is where the argument of his intelligence, overwhelming need, or cowardice comes full circle. I think Cotto was somewhat damaged at that point, gassed out, and being intelligent by staying away. He could have cost himself the fight however, and I'm sure he would have come forward at least one of those rounds if he was physically capable.

What he did was smart, but somewhat risky. That's why I think it was smart, because he had to do it. But it was not all calculated.



Indeed, excellent point.

I know Miguel considered Zab Judah more dangerous at one point.

Good post. Going into retreat was certainly a risk and would not look good in trying to win rounds. I knew the fight was close, and I was slightly concerned with this tactic because it was not at all expected. I think he was stunned in the 9th but recovered fine and chose to box Shane rather than take the fight to him because he felt it was the safest way to victory. He boxed well, but it was risky to switch it up like that, and like i said, unexpected.

[Damn_Zany_Gun]

the difference is floyd does that his whole career (dance around, run, whaterver you want to call it), and even if he didn't and that was the first time he ran, baldomir was 10 lbs heavier.

cotto fought someone his size, has never backed up his whole career to my knowledge, and starts doing it in the biggest fight of his life

Your knowledge is whack!

Cotto likes to come forward yes but that is not what Cotto is all about. Cotto can box and he can get on his pony just like a many fighters do. Cotto is now fighting smart. No more Cotto/Duddy.

If you see Cotto early in his career, he was always trying something new and boxing is what he did early and in the amateurs. I think at this point in Cotto's career, we wont see a wreckless Cotto. This will work to his favor. He will continue to win. Why is fighting like a big ***** ok for Floyd his entire carerr but when Cotto decides to mix things up it's all wrong. You ***** boys just want to see Cotto get knocked out but that wont happen as long as Cotto continues to fight smart. And all this talk about Cotto being chinny? Looks that **** is dead because Mosley hit him with sledge hammers and Cotto came right back with his own fire power. Sorry folks but Cotto is neither as chinny nor as one dimmensional as you once thought only because you have seen Cotto fight 5 times you think you know him. You my boy ExecutiveOutlaw are a joke. Because you said to your knowledge and this proved you have not seen much of Cotto at all.

[kayjay]

I wanted Shane to win as badly as anyone (except Addison) but it wasn'ty happening.

Live I thought Shane had him hurt. On replay it was clear that Cotto knew what he was doing. He changed strategies and boxed moving backwards. I don't love it, but he was doing well for a good part of that time. And it does work against Mosley

[NAPO]

ALSO just look at cotto's amateur career is really not that hard to believe that cotto BOX also and is pretty damn good at it. for me the mosley and abdulleauv fights cotto won them because of his amateur career.

[kayjay]

which is why i said NOT like andy lee

im talking about a sudden knockout like a tsyzu-judah or banks-miranda (though not as brutal)

How can you say that a sudden knockout was about to happen?


For the record I picked Shane to knock Cotto out in the first two rounds. I thought it could happen too. But it didn't happen in twelve rounds, so I don't see why you isuggest it was about to happen