Does De La Hoya Have Any Chance Against Mayweather In A Rematch?

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  • !! Shawn
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    #41
    Originally posted by -Hyperion-
    i think you're putting too much attention on compubox, cus both LANDED ****...
    I agree. The numbers were more accurate for Oscar, but they gave Floyd a point every time he even feinted a sneeze.

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    • Addison
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      #42
      Originally posted by -Hyperion-
      i think you're putting too much attention on compubox, cus both LANDED ****...
      HaHA.. I just watched the fight and it took me about 3 hours because I was rewinding every exchange, and watching it again multiple times in slow motion. Floyd was landing, potna. He was landing.

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      • tyson
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        #43
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        As in, Cotto is ****ing huge compared to Floyd. Do you think Cotto is a small welterweight? I'm not even sure Floyd can be considered a big junior welterweight. He is ****ing tiny for 147 compared to Miguel.

        He might be able to take advantage of Cotto coming in with a punch, but I just think that Floyd fights too defensively to be able to take advantage of that like Judah did.
        No, I don't think Cotto is a small welterweight in his build.
        But he's not as strong as most seems to believe either.

        If Malignaggi could stand in close and wrestle with the dude, I have no doubt Floyd could too.

        Where you and me differate in our viewpoints, are that you think Floyd fights too defensively to be able to take advantage of Cotto's mistakes, while I think that's exactly why it would be a good night for Floyd.

        There's nothing wrong with different opinions, it's just that I'm right

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          #44
          Originally posted by Addison
          Coud be, could be..

          And note I said Floyd took cover when he had to.. You still need to watch this fight again..
          I have it on my list of fights to watch again. The problem is, it is one out of 56. I am going through all my fights that I have that aren't Vernon Forrest, Winky Wright or Fight of the Years. Some are rematches of FOTYs, some are big fights between the big guys (Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad & Vargas) and some are just random fights that interested me (like Jones vs. Pazienza, no punches landed by Paz in a single round, or Calzaghe vs. Lacy/De La Hoya vs. Mayorga, DOMINATION). I have a lot of fights to watch, and I let my Windows Media Player do the picking by randomly selecting one of them.

          Today I watched Castillo vs. Corrales II and Jones Jr. vs. Pazienza. Only Castillo vs. Corrales II survived. Jones Jr. vs. Pazienza didn't have enough utility to me to justify it keeping the hard drive space it was using.

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            #45
            Originally posted by !! Shawn
            Another thing I would like to add to your analysis. I have never seen anyone hurt Cotto without having to absorb punishment in return.

            Floyd is not willing to absorb the punishment he would need to absorb in order to hurt Cotto. Cotto protects his chin well. He is a tough nut to crack, and he moves well.
            Unless he decides to lose his ****ing mind against Ricardo Torres, much the same way that Floyd did vs. Corley.

            Damn, I was pretty sure that Floyd wouldn't KO Cotto, until Addison disagreed with me... now I seriously don't know what to think. I have a lot of respect for Addison's analysis of Miguel Angel Cotto.

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              #46
              Originally posted by tyson
              No, I don't think Cotto is a small welterweight in his build.
              But he's not as strong as most seems to believe either.

              If Malignaggi could stand in close and wrestle with the dude, I have no doubt Floyd could too.

              Where you and me differate in our viewpoints, are that you think Floyd fights too defensively to be able to take advantage of Cotto's mistakes, while I think that's exactly why it would be a good night for Floyd.

              There's nothing wrong with different opinions, it's just that I'm right
              I agree with this. Mayweather fighting defensively is what would cause Cotto the most problems and possibly knock him out with count shots.

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              • !! Shawn
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                #47
                Originally posted by drh
                there are 2 ways i believe oscar can defeat Floyd:
                1. counter a floyd right hand with a big left hook and connecting (almost impossible)
                2. floyd breaking his hand on oscars head
                I still stand by my originonal prediction for the first fight for the second fight if Oscar fights how he should.

                Oscar the counter puncher beats Floyd the Counterpuncher 10 times out of 10 because he hits twice as hard.

                Floyd's right hand is easily timeable, because he has a slight tick.

                Oscar times Floyds right, unleashes his own left hook counter and its lights out.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by !! Shawn
                  Another thing I would like to add to your analysis. I have never seen anyone hurt Cotto without having to absorb punishment in return.

                  Floyd is not willing to absorb the punishment he would need to absorb in order to hurt Cotto. Cotto protects his chin well. He is a tough nut to crack, and he moves well.
                  Then you haven't seen the Torres and Corley fights. Both guys had a chance to finish Cotto - particularly Corley who panicked and failed to land anything remotely meaningful after the temple shot. Corley had Cotto hurt for more than a minute, and Torres somewhere in that neighnorhood as well. Torres couldn't finish him due to apparent exhaustion - but I think he did a **** job of trying to finish..

                  Survival instinct is part of the reason Cotto has survived some of his scares, and sheer luck also is a part of it. A wobbly, groggy drunk only deserves soo much credit for not getting hit stumbling across a freeway.. I've seen it happen though.

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                    #49
                    He has a chance, but a very slim one. He had a much better chance the first time around. If he could keep up the jab for more then 5 or 6 rounds he has a chance, because he made Floyd look pretty basic when he threw the jab alot. More then likely it will look alot like the first fight, only more one sided for Floyd. But Floyd doesnt do much for the first half of the fight so it will probably be another close loss for Oscar.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DWiens421
                      Please refrain from saying things like "Cotto has better jab then Oscar" in the future. It is gramatically atrocious and is ridiculous because it is so far from the truth.
                      Oh its not true? He ****ing stopped using it in the fight against floyd, and cottos jab is a million time more stronger then Oscars. Cotto would **** Oscar the **** up. The hell is all this hype about this overrated oscar? He lost every big fight he ever was in, or do you consider mayorga to be a big fight? Ball licking of oscar when he lost all his big fights.

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