Does De La Hoya Have Any Chance Against Mayweather In A Rematch?

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  • drh
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    #31
    there are 2 ways i believe oscar can defeat Floyd:
    1. counter a floyd right hand with a big left hook and connecting (almost impossible)
    2. floyd breaking his hand on oscars head

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      #32
      Originally posted by tyson
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      This post, with all due respect DWiens, doesn't make sense at all.

      Too big to get KO'd?

      Cotto does indeed hurl in with his head, admittedly with a punch in front, but still...
      He actually leaps in so fast and hard that he would make a master counter-puncher like Floyd pretty happy.

      Watch when Zab hurt him.
      What happened? He leapt in with a punch, and got countered with an uppercut. In the 1 round!!

      Floyd will keep his composure all night, countering that stuff all night.

      I firmly believe Cotto would be knocked out.
      If not, he'd have a very good chance of winning a decision.
      As in, Cotto is ****ing huge compared to Floyd. Do you think Cotto is a small welterweight? I'm not even sure Floyd can be considered a big junior welterweight. He is ****ing tiny for 147 compared to Miguel.

      He might be able to take advantage of Cotto coming in with a punch, but I just think that Floyd fights too defensively to be able to take advantage of that like Judah did.

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        #33
        Originally posted by DWiens421
        While Cotto has a weak chin, he also has the best recovery ability in the sport IMO. He has been down once, and I firmly believe that he was pushed. I am not sure that Mayweather, who is not a hard hitter at 147, no matter what happened to Ricky Hatton, can KO Cotto. You know that Cotto isn't going to hurtle in head first like Hatton did. I think Cotto may be hurt many times, but I doubt he gets KO'd. He is also way too ****ing big to get KO'd. Oscar got nailed a bunch, but never looked shaken. The same would go for Cotto IMO. Floyd would win a decently wide decision if they fought IMO.
        First of all; nobody knows more about Miguel Cotto than me. Nobody.

        OG, is close.. Other than that I am the man.

        Floyd would hurt Cotto and he would finish him, and it wouldn't take long. What Cotto does, and what Floyd does, are a perfect match in oblivion.

        Watch the De La Hoya/Mayweather fight again and tell me that. Floyd was standing dead red and nailing Oscar with extremely hard counter shots. Floyd was like Evander Holyfield with his counter punching, and he barely bailed out, at all. The way Cotto lunges it would be a ****ing funeral.

        Cotto would get checked in murderous fashion. Floyd almost dropped Oscar.. Who has that gif? Floyd is a good, solid, hard puncher at 147 up to 150+. Do you think Oscar got cautious because of Floyd's breath or some ****.. That was respect.

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          #34
          Anyone that can punch like Oscar always has a chance.

          Hopefully, Oscar will realize that pressure isn't the answer this time.

          Maybe he wont burn out his energy throwing ****** body shots with no power behind them.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Scoooter
            Agree with the wide decision in Cotto/Mayweather, but I also think that, if Floyd so desired, he could take Cotto out Hatton-style - frustrated bull-rush or not. Oscar's got a great chin, Cotto doesn't. Oscar's a big dude, Cotto's an inch or two shorter than Mayweather. Granted, he's solidly built, and strong on the inside, but some of you make way too much of Cotto's "size advantage".
            Agreed. ^

            Originally posted by GodOfWar
            Cotto has better jab then Oscar, because Cotto uses his jab unlike Oscar
            Cotto has a luuuuunging jab.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Addison
              First of all; nobody knows more about Miguel Cotto than me. Nobody.

              OG, is close.. Other than that I am the man.

              Floyd would hurt Cotto and he would finish him, and it wouldn't take long. What Cotto does, and what Floyd does, are a perfect match in oblivion.

              Watch the De La Hoya/Mayweather fight again and tell me that. Floyd was standing dead red and nailing Oscar with extremely hard counter shots. Floyd was like Evander Holyfield with his counter punching, and he barely bailed out, at all. The way Cotto lunges it would be a ****ing funeral.

              Cotto would get checked in murderous fashion. Floyd almost dropped Oscar.. Who has that gif? Floyd is a good, solid, hard puncher at 147 up to 150+. Do you think Oscar got cautious because of Floyd's breath or some ****.. That was respect.
              Well I definately don't want to disagree with you about Cotto, because I know that you have studied him a lot. Then again, look at your signature gif. He does what he has to to win.

              Originally posted by !! Shawn
              Anyone that can punch like Oscar always has a chance.

              Hopefully, Oscar will realize that pressure isn't the answer this time.

              Maybe he wont burn out his energy throwing ****** body shots with no power behind them.
              I still think that pressure is not the answer against Floyd, no matter who he is fighting.

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                #37
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                Oh goodness, if he did a Corley fight against Oscar, he would have a L-KO on his record. Oscar can still **** harder than Floyd's chin could stand IMO.

                I guess that is true that he didn't fight as smart of a fight as he could against Oscar... WHERE THE **** WAS THE PULL-COUNTER STRAIGHT RIGHT HAND OVER THE JAB FLOYD?!? I still have a bit of a conspiracy theory in my mind that he made that fight closer than it should have been so he would be able to justify (somewhat) a rematch to the public.
                Coud be, could be..

                And note I said Floyd took cover when he had to.. You still need to watch this fight again..

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                  #38
                  i think you're putting too much attention on compubox, cus both LANDED ****...

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by DWiens421
                    While Cotto has a weak chin, he also has the best recovery ability in the sport IMO. He has been down once, and I firmly believe that he was pushed. I am not sure that Mayweather, who is not a hard hitter at 147, no matter what happened to Ricky Hatton, can KO Cotto. You know that Cotto isn't going to hurtle in head first like Hatton did. I think Cotto may be hurt many times, but I doubt he gets KO'd. He is also way too ****ing big to get KO'd. Oscar got nailed a bunch, but never looked shaken. The same would go for Cotto IMO. Floyd would win a decently wide decision if they fought IMO.
                    Another thing I would like to add to your analysis. I have never seen anyone hurt Cotto without having to absorb punishment in return.

                    Floyd is not willing to absorb the punishment he would need to absorb in order to hurt Cotto. Cotto protects his chin well. He is a tough nut to crack, and he moves well.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by tyson


                      This post, with all due respect DWiens, doesn't make sense at all.

                      Too big to get KO'd?

                      Cotto does indeed hurl in with his head, admittedly with a punch in front, but still...
                      He actually leaps in so fast and hard that he would make a master counter-puncher like Floyd pretty happy.

                      Watch when Zab hurt him.
                      What happened? He leapt in with a punch, and got countered with an uppercut. In the 1 round!!

                      Floyd will keep his composure all night, countering that stuff all night.

                      I firmly believe Cotto would be knocked out.
                      If not, he'd have a very good chance of winning a decision.
                      And take it from my man here who is a master counter puncher as well. ^

                      Real talk.

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