Expect to see a physically "big" Bernard Hopkins against Calzaghe

[FRKO]

You have no reasonable views on the topic at all. All you talking about is Calzaghe's work rate and swarming while completely ignoring Hopkins brilliant counter punching and sharper/harder punches. I can't expect more from biased fans.




Sweet

Swarming? Where did I mention swarming? Are you tripping homeboy?

[Konstantin]

You have no reasonable views on the topic at all. All you talking about is Calzaghe's work rate and swarming while completely ignoring Hopkins brilliant counter punching and sharper/harder punches. I can't expect more from biased fans.




Sweet

You mentioned that Hopkins was the best fighter that Joe has faced. Well lets see how he compares to the fighters that Hopkins has faced.

Jones - Hopkins. Hopkins lost. Granted Calzaggie isnt as good as Jones, hes still lb/lb.
Taylor - Hopkins. He couldnt beat him 2x. Calzaggie is a much better fighter than Taylor.

Where was this defensive genius when he was fighting Taylor? He's seriously over rated in his boxing skills. Sure hes good, but its not like he's unbeatable or impossible to hit.

[macman]

Think that Hopkins will be around the size he was for Tarver, with lots of emphasis on cardio in his training.

For Hopkins to win think that he has to be able to muscle Calzaghe on the inside & wear him down as the fight goes on, but still quick enough for those short rushes that he loves to do, as well as landing the right hand counter.

Lacy isn't a good comparison - he was big & strong, but Calzaghe was able to throw him around like he did because of his better balance & smarts.

Hopkins is probably the only fighter's around that can probably edge Calzaghe in smarts & experience on the inside, & that's where he has to win the fight.

Getting on the inside when he needs to with the quick rush, muscle & frustrate him when there, mix it up with the quick right or occaissional combo to vary things, & a fair bit of lateral movement.

Still favour Calzaghe, but of any fighter around, Hopkins is the guy who can come up with the best gameplan & prepare incredibly well for it.

Should be interesting.

[typeone]

Also, after re-reading your original nonsensical post, it has occured to me you know absolutely NOTHING about Joe Calzaghe. When hurt, Joe ups the workrate and sits down on his shots more to fight through the rough patch. Hurting Joe is the last thing Hopkins wants to do.....

That is **** on m8!! Karma coming your way!

[MaYaN_SuN]

One thing that puts Hopkins in my top 10 all time favorites is his dedication to the sport. You can say what you wan't, how he appreciates the sport, and the dedication to training that follows, this man doesn't take his calling for granted. Typical throwback bad ass.


Despite how he looks, If Bernard comes to fight fully engergized and comfortable...I really don't see how Joe would deal with Hopkins right hand and style. I do think Hopkins should let his hands go more, because if he doesn't let them go enough, and if he lets it go to the scorecards, I see Calzaghe gettin the D reguardless, especially after whats takin place with all the racsim accusation. If Hopkins comes out on his toes, avoiding, and countering, and leading. He should eventually crack Joe.


Only thing dangerous about Joe, is that out of all those slapping shots, 1 out of 4 of em have the potential to be stingers.

[moofo]

Against Tarver:



Against Winky:



Obviously, his fight against Winky was at a catch weight and lower then what he fought against Tarver at so that also had something to do with the physical difference, but more so I think the strategy was to physically hurt Tarver, whereas against Winky, he knew he couldn't hurt him so it was more of a tactical approach and strong emphasis on conditioning training rather than power training.

Against Calzaghe, he knows Joe is faster and has a higher workrate. He knows that even if he trains hard in these areas, Joe will still have the advantage. So his game plan will be to work on power and counter punching. He will try to hurt/stun Joe around the mid rounds, just like against Tarver, which in theory will slow down Joe's workrate and make him more cautious.

Thoughts?

You just post garbage....but you are consistent.
Hopkins is at his natural frame when at light heavy.
I suppose credit is due for the discipline he showed all those years of boiling down to 160 but at the end of the day he made his fame beating little men up.
He lost to men he couldn't bully and that is what will happen against Calzaghe.
Hopkins game plan is likely to spoil as much as possible , foul and do more mileage round the ring than Forest Gump when he ran across america.
"Mad Skillz" coming atcha!

[Addison]

Against Tarver:



Against Winky:



Obviously, his fight against Winky was at a catch weight and lower then what he fought against Tarver at so that also had something to do with the physical difference, but more so I think the strategy was to physically hurt Tarver, whereas against Winky, he knew he couldn't hurt him so it was more of a tactical approach and strong emphasis on conditioning training rather than power training.

Against Calzaghe, he knows Joe is faster and has a higher workrate. He knows that even if he trains hard in these areas, Joe will still have the advantage. So his game plan will be to work on power and counter punching. He will try to hurt/stun Joe around the mid rounds, just like against Tarver, which in theory will slow down Joe's workrate and make him more cautious.

Thoughts?

That's some pretty good theory. I would expect about exactly that.. I don't know if he's planning on stunning Calzaghe though.. He better not, cause that **** ain't happening. At least it's not likely. But Joe is fighting someone like Bernard for the very first time ever, so he'll be getting a look like he's never had. Hopefully not too many are shocked beyond belief when, or if, Calzaghe gets caught doing something completely ******. He will be in school. How fast he learns is the question, because it's usually Joe teaching class..

[moofo]

That's some pretty good theory. I would expect about exactly that.. I don't know if he's planning on stunning Calzaghe though.. He better not, cause they **** ain't happening. At least it's not likely. But Joe is fighting someone like Bernard for the very first time ever, so he'll be getting a look like he's never had. Hopefully not too many are shocked beyond belief when, or if, Calzaghe gets caught doing something completely ******. He will be in school. How fast he learns is the question, because it's usually Joe teaching class..

Yet a Green Taylor took Bernard to school twice....
Good theory.
Considering Joe would wipe the floor with taylor.

[Addison]

Yet a Green Taylor took Bernard to school twice....
Good theory.
Considering Joe would wipe the floor with taylor.

On explosiveness and athleticism. Bernard's true Achilles heel..

To school? Are you sure you want to use that phrase? MISUSE, douche.


moofo, spare me.. You are a nationalist fanboy. You aren't a fan of the sport. You were sucking on my **** when I was advocating for Hatton over Mayweather. :*******: **** off.

[Addison]

Yet a Green Taylor took Bernard to school twice....
Good theory.
Considering Joe would wipe the floor with taylor.

****ing amateur.. Triangle theory and all..