What next for JM Marquez?

[muppetman]

Thats my point, Marquez even though he ages like wine, any punishment he absorbs in the process will ruin his flavor.

He needs to respond to Paq's tactics in kind, play it safe.



lol That seems to be the technique in Boxing nowadays.


From Floyd to Paq, stay out of danger and rack up the hype. It's times Mexicans use they're great chins and Boxing skills and follow suit. Take low risk bout and dig deep only when they have to.

Don't go blood and guts just cause some announcers want it like that, do what the Mayweather's and Paqiaous do. Cherry pick, until you can make a move. You'll save yourself health wise, and you'll get the respect of idiots, but that's still respect in Boxing lol.




Marquez needs to stay healthy, stay out of anything that will bruise him up. Fight fire with fire.

your right he should take easy fights just to stay fresh and ready for another hard fight

[shadeyfizzle]

Paq is gettin away with yet another what appears before hand "low risk bout."

So Juan needs to take the same fights, low risk. Cause Paq's people will not put Manny in with a threat, the closest threat they'll put him in with is Marquez.

So Juans Next Move is to take bouts that will help him preserve his health, cause the "Paqiaous" WILL be ****in on his door before they **** on anyone else's.

Play it safe, and play it smart. And figth fire with fire lol. And if Juans team does that, they'll be straight for when the rematch gets called for.

"another" low risk bout??? I suppose the low risk bouts you are talkin about are the 2 fights with larios and solis. But have you forgotten these bouts only took place because top rank and gbp were fighting over his promotional rights in court and Pac needed SOMETHING to keep him busy for a year and a half. Otherwise Pac would have beaten barrera already in early 07 and JMM wouldn't have had a 2nd fight to ***** about and Pac would probably already have an alphabet title at lightweight already. So wtf is this about "ANOTHER" low risk bout bull**** as if that was the plan from the beginning. Pac has always taken on the best of the best. But since he's climbing up a weightclass he has to start somewhere. And sure as hell aint gonna be with a bout straight with Casamayor or Campbell because he hasnt done anything to earn his stripes in that division yet. so get the **** outta here about this low risk bull****

[MaYaN_SuN]

I suppose the low risk bouts you are talkin about are the 2 fights with larios and solis.

Based on this alone, I'd think that's worthy of a **** slap across the mouth lmao..




Only if every fighter, every prospect, can gain AS MUCHhype and money from beating the likes of a Larios or Solis.

Larios being 50 fights deep into his career and before those 50 bouts, Israel Vasques KOed him 2 times, so did a new big Venezeulan kid, but Paq couldn't do much to him until the end of his career aswell. And Solis, the no name undefeated fighter from a nationality that your weak ass island 'tried' to build a name off of' (thanks to Top Rank's scouts for finding this bogus of a guy for a PPV card). But all of them are fighers, from the same nationality your're prospects and future "elites" tried to make the same name off of, but they just couldn't take advantage lol..I mean you guys tried, butttt ehhh, lol couldn't do it. Mission failed over and over..

I mean not all your islands fighters can show up on the boxing scene out of no where, while being south paw's with fast left hands that shoot straight out of the chest instead of the shoulder. But then again, if you had an island of Manny Paq's we can have a country of Juan Manuels, who have the skill to adjust to that tired bull**** on a whim lol..

My point is, Paq built his name off old fighters and no name fighters picked out by TopRanks people. The one old fighter he faced (who wasn't tender), Paq hasnt been able to shine on (Juan Manuel Marquez). Not only cause Paq is way too sloppy of a fighter, but because Juan, just like Paq, isn't as damanged and Tender as Marco and Erik were. Juan can still adjust in the middle of a fight and despite his loss in speed, can still put together one of the best showcases of handwork you, and your people have ever seen. So take notes, and be gratefull you saw as much...lol and run back and whisper into ears what you saw. Try to figure out another way to sneak past the greats

[MANGLER]

If he ain't gettin the rematch with Pac, I'd like to see him go overseas and fight Valero since he can't fight in the states. Just go for the KO so he doesn't have to worry about a repeat of the whole Chris John thing and we don't have to listen to all this **** about how he was robbed because he got knocked down in a close fight with a puncher whom he outboxed.

[Contenders]

Although the Chris John thing sounds kinda good for an undercard bout on Pac-Diaz, how likely is it that John would fight outside of Indonesia? And what weight would the fight be at? Featherweight? Also, how much hype/credit would Marquez get for beating him? I know he'd be avenging a loss...but against an unknown fighter to most fans here in the States.

A low-risk "easy" fight sounds good for Marquez just to keep busy and stay sharp, but I really think he needs to fight and beat a somewhat known fighter impressively to up his demand for a third fight with Pac. If he's gonna get that third fight, is HAS to happen this fall! Marquez ain't getting any younger. A fight with Guzman would be great, but risky 'cause of his slick, difficult style. Valero would be interesting, but he'd probably have to fight overseas. How about a fight with Humberto Soto on the Pac-Diaz undercard?

[shadeyfizzle]

My point is, Paq built his name off old fighters and no name fighters picked out by TopRanks people. The one old fighter he faced (who wasn't tender), Paq hasnt been able to shine on (Juan Manuel Marquez). Not only cause Paq is way too sloppy of a fighter, but because Juan, just like Paq, isn't as damanged and Tender as Marco and Erik were. Juan can still adjust in the middle of a fight and despite his loss in speed, can still put together one of the best showcases of handwork you, and your people have ever seen. So take notes, and be gratefull you saw as much...lol and run back and whisper into ears what you saw. Try to figure out another way to sneak past the greats

I've already mentioned to you on several threads that one of these "old washed up" fighters would have beaten your fighter if the knockdown which was proved to be caused by a punch and not a slip counted. Way to call it a poor excuse to make a name for himself when Pac beats 1 of em but call it a legitimate title victory when Juan wins a controversial decision over em. I also keep telling you that if it wasnt for the lawsuit Pac would have beaten barrera a long time ago and poor juan wouldnt have even gotten a 2nd fight to ***** about to begin with. These are FACTS. not ******ass racist opinions like you bring. but time after time you pretend like it never happened and keep bringing the same ******ass hypocritical excuses

[MaYaN_SuN]

I've already mentioned to you on several threads that one of these "old washed up" fighters would have beaten your fighter if the knockdown which was proved to be caused by a punch and not a slip counted.

Further proof you need to actually watch this sport..

Marquez got knocked down by Barrera, but Marquez was pickin him apart all night before and after that. lol Only Paq fans and Juan haters actually think Marco won that fight. Marco actually had no buisness in taking a Marquez fight, it was just Paq's people forcin a uncessecary bout, they even made Juan face Rocky before Juan could get the Mil he wanted against Paq, and the Barrera Knock Down on Marquez even made Paq's people even more wet in the panties.....Not knowin Marquez only gets really hurt or knocked down with shots he doesn't expect or can't see. They went' straight after Juan, completely ignored Joan and his rightfull shot, lol they didn't even give Huberto a shot, thinkin Juan would be the best push over the second time, ****in ***** ass oppertunists lol. Truth is Paq's too sloppy to shine on a great fighter like Juan. Again, with Paq's handlers logic, they all thought "well if Paq is this good" lets put our new guys against Mexicans, and womp womppppppppppp.....Mission failed. Poetic Justice if you think about it. Reguardless....


The fact's remain.


Juan needs to protect his health, cause his main target won't be takin chances any time soon. None to the likes of Guzman's or Valereo's anyway....


Juan needs to protect himself and stay healthy. Ignacio will take care of him though, he's not a suckerrrrrrr.

[shadeyfizzle]

The fact's remain.


Juan needs to protect his health, cause his main target won't be takin chances any time soon. None to the likes of Guzman's or Valereo's anyway....


Juan needs to protect himself and stay healthy. Ignacio will take care of him though, he's not a suckerrrrrrr.

You mean the facts remain that the best JMM could muster against an "old and washed up" fighter is a controversial split decsion while Pac destroyed him twice. Once being in Barrera's prime as a late replacement with only 2 weeks to train. Trusting Nacho and not taking chances is what got JMM into this mess in the first place. "Let's not take the most money we've ever made in a fight in a rematch with Pacquiao. He put us on our ass three times Juan. Let's just go to indonesea and fight Chris John. I'm SURE you can beat him Juan. Once you bolster your record with that...THEN the big money fights will come rolling in"

So keep dreaming buddy.

[MaYaN_SuN]

You mean the facts remain that the best JMM could muster against an "old and washed up" fighter is a controversial split decsion while Pac destroyed him twice. Once being in Barrera's prime as a late replacement with only 2 weeks to train. Trusting Nacho and not taking chances is what got JMM into this mess in the first place. "Let's not take the most money we've ever made in a fight in a rematch with Pacquiao. He put us on our ass three times Juan. Let's just go to indonesea and fight Chris John. I'm SURE you can beat him Juan. Once you bolster your record with that...THEN the big money fights will come rolling in"

So keep dreaming buddy.

I think Barrera's footwork shined in the second Paq fight. It's just Marco couldn't throw anything back like he use to. I was telling myself, If Marco can avoid punishment, Juan will be able too, and be able to land his shots.

I honestly didn't think Juan would be able to land like he did in the second fight.

But he stated that, Top Rank wouldn't give him southpaw sparring partners the first time around, wouldnt give him other demands either. And that GOLDENBOY did, lol so with and without propper trainings.

Juan made Paq look like the sloppy lunging fighter he is....That fat chode Bob Arum couldn't save Paq this time.

[Pugilistic™]

guzman, valero, etc