Did I miss something...What the HELL makes Pavlik a pound for pound fighter???

[MaYaN_SuN]

lol Seriously, Pavlik basically tore ass through the middleiweight division and didnt stop doing so until he reached the top.


But I only saw parts of the second fight with Taylor, and I agree with Ledderman, Taylor looked like he was throwin the harder punches. Pavliks hooks looked pretty limp in comparison to Taylors.

[sterling]

pavlik can easy make a bigger wieght class since hes already big for his wieght at the moment and hes dominated the middlewieght division so that makes him p4p but not a top p4p fighter of course.

[squealpiggy]

Bullcrap

Why is it bullcrap? Pavlik is a HUGE middleweight. I think he can dominate there because of his size, I don't think he could dominate against guys his size who lack his ability to boil down. Pavlik just hasn't shown me he belongs there yet. Neither has Haye for that matter but I can see him getting on there first if he can get it done at heavy.

[BrooklynBomber]

Why is it bullcrap? Pavlik is a HUGE middleweight. I think he can dominate there because of his size, I don't think he could dominate against guys his size who lack his ability to boil down. Pavlik just hasn't shown me he belongs there yet. Neither has Haye for that matter but I can see him getting on there first if he can get it done at heavy.

This is frankly irrelevant, he beat the opponents that he was supposed to lose against, size or not. I mean you can pretty much dismiss most of Haye's wins for that matter because he was always the bigger guy.

[ben41193]

Yeah, Winky is not on The Ring's Pound for Pound list anymore.

i tdont think he should be, he isnt a p4p better fighter than pavlick at this stage in his career he is old and as much as i love him i gotta say he looks bad

[Clegg]

I think Calzaghe even made Pavlik look bad because Calzaghe says he'll go down in weight to fight him.

Really? I missed that interview, do you have a link to it?

[Thunder Lips]

Both fighters activity in the past 12 months:

Winky Wright 0-1
L Hopkins

Pavlik 4-0
W Taylor
W Taylor
W Miranda
W Zertuche

Why would anyone rank Wright over the undisputed middleweight champion at this point?

[Addison]

Two wins over Jermain Taylor??..a guy who WE knew days were numbered after ugly showings against Ouma and Spinks???......Taylor was due for a beating sooner or later.

Miranda.....the guy who had no business at 160 pounds anyway.

Zertuche..who???





So please explain to me why Pavlik is a P4P fighter???

Winky is 36 and would beat Pavs pretty easy.

Lets debate it....

Well, Richard Shaefer told Oscar De La Hoya to tell Nigel Collins he thought it would be a "good idea" for the magazine..

[warp1432]

I'd have him over Winky, but I'm not sure why Rafeal is still on that list.

Because the thrid fight was close? I'd still put Winky at 10 just because he's accomplished so much. He lost to Hopkins (wasn't as close as some people made it out to be, but he gave Hopkins some problems in the middle rounds. Gave Taylor a hell of a fight too.)

Or Ricky Hatton getting knocked out then at #8 being somewhat weird.

[MELLY-MEL...]

Because he is the mw champ,and has some very good wins this year!!!! 33-0-29