Did I miss something...What the HELL makes Pavlik a pound for pound fighter???

[C'MONMANG']

He knocked out everybody in his path, from contender to champion. No one had beaten Taylor, Hopkins couldn't do it, Winky couldn't do it, as close as those fights were, Pavlik knocked him out.

Prior to their fights with Pavlik, Miranda and Zertuche had never been stopped.

if this doesnt answer his question then I dont know what will.

and Pavilik would give Winky a one sided beating.

[BmoreBrawler]

You mean when Hopkins decided not to fight for the first 8 rounds?

Also, remember that Wright came up 10 pounds of uncharted territory for the fight with Hopkins. Size advantage isn't something to **** around with for most fighters.

I'm not sure why it is considered such a unilateral decision to "not fight". The opponent deserves some credit.

Sure, 10lbs is a lot, but the fight went to the scorecards so I'm not sure how it really played a factor.

[KingTito]

for one, beating jermain like twice is impressive, especially how he came back to knock him out the first time, he was the middleweight king, he beat hopkins 2x, draw with wright, and beat ouma and spinks, and was undefeated.. his record and the fact that he is middleweight champ speaks for itself, he deserves a p4p spot.. he had one of the biggest, if not the biggest, years in boxing last year

[squealpiggy]

Kelly Pavlik is the Undisputed, Undefeated Middleweight Champion of the World

33-0 29 KO's

Anybody who thinks Pavlik dosen't belong in the P4P rankings is either a ****** or a RACIST....We will see a mix of both in this post.

You may be a ******ed racist, but at least you're honest.

[-Hyperion-]

The Ring was ******ed and/or racist one week ago? Have you not figured out that it doesn't make any ****ing sense to make blanket statements about racism concerning what fighters someone prefers? I'm white... and look at my favorite fighters. 2 black and 1 Cuban. Did I plan it that way? **** no. There is more to boxing than race you know...



Seems like a strange thing to drop him for... Mayweather hasn't moved an inch and he is going to be inactive for a long ass time.

Seems even more strange that they figured that **** out this week.

Weird... that's all I'm saying.

becaus they all go with teh flavor of the month......

winky was #3..lost to #6-7 and gets to #10??

hatton was #10, looked like he didnt even belong in the same ring as floyd and they put him in#8????

cotto beats judah(coming off losses in important fights) and they put him in #10?????then he beats mosley(unranked) and they put him at 7??

rafa marquez(#4) loses to unranked vazquez and then to #5 vazquez and he is higher than winky???

seriuously im not saying tehy're wrong...but the ring list is just very inconsistent....

pavlik beats a top 15-top5-champ at middleweight...at leats i think he deserves his #10 more than cotto deserves his #7 or hatton #8...

juan manuel marquez went from unranked straight to #4.....for beatinga hasnt fought anyone with a chance in 3 years barrera

[-Hyperion-]

I give Hopkins a lot of credit for making due with what he had, but at the end of the day, a true p4p all star like winky (wasnt he ranked 2nd for a while?) should be able to deal with this minor annoyance.

Also, the ease at which Taylor beat Hopkins should show you how easily a real top p4p fighter like Winky should have been able to finish the job vs an even older hopkins.

but winky didnt have the size to exploit hopkins' weakness like taylor......and hopkins didnt have any stamina at mw anyomre....thats why he fought in spurts...since going up to light heavy he has regained his stamina....which makes hopkins pretty much better than he ever was since 2002.....not to metion the dirty tricks and the fact that it was a close fight...

[squealpiggy]

hatton was #10, looked like he didnt even belong in the same ring as floyd and they put him in#8????

Hatton was number 8 and lost to the number 1 so he didn't move.

I don't see how Pavlik has managed to get onto the p4p lists either to be honest. I could see Haye getting on there before Pavlik.

[BrooklynBomber]

Kelly is like NY Giants, majority were writing him off against either Miranda(who was the hottest contender at that time) and whom he beat the **** out of. Then the majority wrote him off against Taylor, thinking that Taylor's athletism and speed would be too much for Pavlik. Pavlik knocked him out. Then 6 months later Pavlik beat Taylor again proving that it was no lucky punch the first time, that Pavlik can box as well as **** and can outwork the slicker and faster opposition.


But no matter what the majority thinks, Pavlik just keeps on rolling.

[BrooklynBomber]

Hatton was number 8 and lost to the number 1 so he didn't move.

I don't see how Pavlik has managed to get onto the p4p lists either to be honest. I could see Haye getting on there before Pavlik.

Bullcrap

[Lyrical_Lizard]

PAVLIK, P4P THE BEST PERIOD!, CONTINUE TO WATCH HIS TITLE DEFENSES AND DON'T LET HIS HUMBLENESS FOOL YOU, BELIEVE ME THIS GUY IS THE REAL DEAL WITH SOME OF THE HEAVIEST HANDS EVER MADE OF U.S. OR YOUNGSTOWN STEEL. CHECK OUT MY TRACK AT WWW.LYRICAL-LIZARD.COM

I LIKE WINKY AS WELL BUT PAVLIK IS THE MAN IN THE MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION UNTIL SOMEONE TAKES IT FROM HIM AND I SERIOUSLY DOUBT IT.I SEE HIM DUMPING THEM LIKE LENNOX LEWIS DID AND MOVING UP IN WEIGHT AFTER A FEW MAJOR TITLE DEFENSES. MUCH RESPECT.
JON "LYRICAL LIZARD" GUTHRIE. GARY INDIANA. G.I. (GANGSTA ISLAND)