Did I miss something...What the HELL makes Pavlik a pound for pound fighter???

[Domain]

undisputed middleweight champion and undefeated.

thats how

[Mike Tyson77]

undisputed middleweight champion and undefeated.

thats how

tell em'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BmoreBrawler]

Goodness!

Is that how bad you think those two guys are?

Compared to a supposedly top p4p Winky, yes. Turns out, those guys were a little better than we thought and Winky is far worse.

[Burner]

Compared to a supposedly top p4p Winky, yes. Turns out, those guys were a little better than we thought and Winky is far worse.

Do you know who Winky Wright is???

Seriously....you must be confused or drunk or something.

[Fox McCloud]

Compared to a supposedly top p4p Winky, yes. Turns out, those guys were a little better than we thought and Winky is far worse.

Lol, everyone involved in Winky vs. Taylor and Winky vs. Hopkins were all P4P ranked during their respective matches.

[BmoreBrawler]

Lol, everyone involved in Winky vs. Taylor and Winky vs. Hopkins were all P4P ranked during their respective matches.

Hopkins IMO was wrongfully ranked. Taylor was exposed by his last 4 fights.

[Fox McCloud]

Hopkins IMO was wrongfully ranked. Taylor was exposed by his last 4 fights.

Moving up 2 divisions, and beating the guy who beat Jones Jr. for the the first and third times (who also consequently beat the guy who beat him for the second time) is pretty impressive IMO (Antonio Tarver for the slow).

Say what you want about Tarver, but he did have everyone fooled at that point, and it is pretty difficult to take that away from Hopkins. It's not like he eeked out a decision either.

Also, when Wright fought Taylor he was coming off 2 wins over Hopkins (with the second one being fairly clear in his favor).

[BmoreBrawler]

Moving up 2 divisions, and beating the guy who beat Jones Jr. for the the first and third times (who also consequently beat the guy who beat him for the second time) is pretty impressive IMO (Antonio Tarver for the slow).

Say what you want about Tarver, but he did have everyone fooled at that point, and it is pretty difficult to take that away from Hopkins. It's not like he eeked out a decision either.

Also, when Wright fought Taylor he was coming off 2 wins over Hopkins (with the second one being fairly clear in his favor).

I give Hopkins a lot of credit for making due with what he had, but at the end of the day, a true p4p all star like winky (wasnt he ranked 2nd for a while?) should be able to deal with this minor annoyance.

Also, the ease at which Taylor beat Hopkins should show you how easily a real top p4p fighter like Winky should have been able to finish the job vs an even older hopkins.

[Fox McCloud]

I give Hopkins a lot of credit for making due with what he had, but at the end of the day, a true p4p all star like winky (wasnt he ranked 2nd for a while?) should be able to deal with this minor annoyance.

Also, the ease at which Taylor beat Hopkins should show you how easily a real top p4p fighter like Winky should have been able to finish the job vs an even older hopkins.

You mean when Hopkins decided not to fight for the first 8 rounds?

Also, remember that Wright came up 10 pounds of uncharted territory for the fight with Hopkins. Size advantage isn't something to **** around with for most fighters.

[GodOfWar]

Don't bad mouth kelly, he has an ass whooping coming for him. After Calzaghe beats Hopkins
(yes hopkins fans calzaghe is going 2 beat the **** out of hopkins) he will probably call out pavlik like he has recently. I think Calzaghe even made Pavlik look bad because Calzaghe says he'll go down in weight to fight him. So, Pavlik can't run anywheres and pavliks camp most likely know that Calzaghe is too much of a challenge for pavlik.